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Now, I am going to try this experiment. You will laugh at 

 me, perhaps, but I do not care if you do. I am going to put a 

 pile of stones a foot deep round some of my vines, and I am 

 going to put an acre of vines into trees. My object is to get 

 fruit, and if I can do it by letting the vines run into trees better 

 than in any other way, then I will do that. " Is it feasible," 

 you ask, " to grow trees for that purpose ? Will the vines grow 

 there without injuring the trees ? " They do it in Italy, and 

 why should not we ? I am satisfied of one thing, that we prune 

 too much. There is no question about it. The Concord grape 

 will not bear all these processes of pruning to which we subject 

 it. That is rather a rampant grower. I am satisfied that that 

 is one of the causes of my failure this year with the Concord. 



One word more. I do not condemn the Concord. More 

 than half my vineyard consists of the Concord grape. I say it 

 is the best grape, take it all in all, for market purposes, but I 

 say that the grape for the vineyard is yet to be introduced here. 

 It seems to me we want a grape of the size of Rogers' No. 4, of 

 the quality of the lona, of the hardiness of the Concord — and 

 more so, because that rots in certain seasons. 



Mr. Bull. You ask for a good deal. 



Mr. Hyde. I do, aiid I am looking for just that good deal. 

 When we get a grape like that, we can grow grapes with more 

 certainty than at the present time ; but, meanwhile, we must 

 work along and take the best we can get. There are parties 

 who advertise that they have 300,000 seedling grapes, and 

 everywhere we find seedling grapes. May we not hope that out 

 of all these we shall get the grape we want ? 



Mr. Brown. Reference has been made to the effect of the 

 morning sun. What is the value of the morning sun, say until 

 ten o'clock, as compared with an equal time later in the day ? 



Mr. Hyde. I cannot answer very accurately. I am of the 

 opinion that the morning sun is the best. A single word in 

 regard to mildew. My experience agrees with that of others. 

 It follows upon sudden changes in the weather. If we have a 

 hot, scorching sun, and then a shower, you wiU see mildew. 



A Member. Does not this morning sun produce these 

 sudden changes which you dread ? 



Mr. Hyde. No, sir. I do not think we can improve on 

 nature in that respect. The Almighty has arranged that matter 

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