166 TESTIMONY OF THOMAS C. DOREMUS, JR. 



Q. "What few minutes did Mr. Kaspir have it ? A. At the farm, 

 after seeing some cows milked we took the samples of milk and 

 thoroughly mixed them, and took our samples from them, and then 

 when I went to the stable again to see the other cows milked, I left 

 them in charge of Mr. Kaspir. 



Q. Did you examine the cows from which that milk came? 

 A. Yes, sir. 



Q. Did they appear to be healthy animals ? A. They appeared 

 to be perfectly healthy. 

 Cross-examined : 



Q. Mr. Doremus, how old are you ? A. I am 22. 



Q. Are you an assistant of Dr. Doremus in his laboratory ? 

 A. Not as a regular thing ; sometimes in some cases. 



Q. What lactometer did you use ? A. I used the lactometer that 

 was brought here into Court by my brother the other day ; I believe 

 that is the one behind you. 



Q. It is the one you had from your brother ? A. Yes, sir, the 

 one that was given to me by my brother. 



Q. Did you ever test that lactometer ? A. I did not. 



Q. That is the lactometer I understand ? (lactometer shown). 

 A. I believe that is the one to the best of my knowledge that is 

 the one. 



Q. "Who is this Mr. Mulford, whose farm you visited? A. He 

 has a farm there I never met him before. 



Q. Where ? A. A place five miles from Guymard ; it is Orange 

 County. 



Q. Near what town ? A. Guymard. 



Q. Is it near any station or any railroad ? A. It is about tsn 

 miles from Middletown that is the station you get out at ; you can 

 go both ways between Middletown and Port Jervis. 



Q. Who accompanied you to this place A. Mr. Kaspir. 



Q. Who is Mr. Kaspir ? A. I believe he is a maltster by pro- 

 fession. 



Q. Is he a member of the Milk Dealers' Association ? A. Not 

 to my knowledge. 



Q. Do you know whether he sold brewers' grains or food for 

 cows to this Mr. Mulford ? A. I do not ; I think it was the first 

 time he met him as well as myself. 



