TESTIMONY OF ROBERT OGDEN DOREMUS. 205 



Q. The experiments that you mentioned as having been made 

 there, were they made in open vessels ? A. They were, sir. 



Q. "Were there not three gentlemen, Messrs. Pond, Knauer, and 

 Schaffer ? A. I think there were but two of them ; my printed tes- 

 timony would tell. 



Q. These experiments of cooling the milk were made in open 

 vessels? A. They were, sir, under my personal supervision. 



Q. Can you tell me how much milk the bob-tailed cow gave ? 

 A. I do not know whether I can or not ; I will look, but all the cows 

 were giving pretty liberally at that time ; it was a favorable season 

 of the year ; that is my impression ; I will see if I have a record of 

 it ; I have a record of the amount. 



Q. Have you a record of the amount of any of the other cows ? 

 A. I think I have not; I would like to add to that that they were 

 all giving their milk liberally ; it was not strippings of cows dried 

 up. 



Q. You are the Dr. Doremus who testified in the case of Kneib ? 

 A. I am, sir. 



Q. Do you know there was a trial subsequent to that, the case 

 of Joechter ? A. I do not ; I know there have been a number of 

 trials, but I never heard of that case before. 



Q. Do you know there was a case tried subsequent to the case 

 of Kneib in which experts testified as to the lactometer ? 



(Objected to.) 



Q. In the trial of the Kneib case did you give this testimony on 

 page 37, in answer to the question, " Then you regard distillery 

 waste in a state of fermentation as a nutritious article of diet for 

 cows ?" " I know it to be a wholesome article of diet." Did you 

 answer that in that way on that trial ? 



(Objected to ; objection sustained.) 



Q. Have you at any time stated that you believe distillery swill 

 to be a nutritious and wholesome article of diet for cows ? 



(Objected to ; objection sustained.) 



Q. Have you not recommended as food for cows the use of dis- 

 tillery slops and waste ? 



(Objected to.) 



Q. Are you the Dr. Doremus mentioned in this article : "A meet- 

 ing of the Milk Dealers' Association was held last evening at 98 



