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Ollbi In Philadelphia, did you associate with many of th« 

 j^blisbers? Did you know many of the puhlisb»rt 

 of that time? 



Cogginet X Biet x&any of iAmm* 1 was not a vepy iBq;>ortant 

 flgarot ^t X did meet them# X net people like 

 the editors of the Saturday Eveninfa; Post and 

 Iiadies Home Journal * Sdvard Bok (md George Horace 

 ZiOi^iaer, X uaed to coasoate vith Ghurehill Vlllia»s« 

 an editor of the Saturday Rveniniy Poat » He had 

 written a eouple of novels later and was pretty 

 veil known* X reaember his reTiev of Frank Vorris's 

 Octopus in the Bookaan * Re eoined the term 

 "red -blood literature •• 



Then X set these other people , the people at 

 Lippineott*s» X knew Mr, Coates pretty well* 

 There weren't very many publishers in those days* 

 X remeMber when these "ttpstarta«* MeClure and 

 Boubledayt cane out of Scribner's and went into 

 business and everybody predicted they wouldn*t 

 last* 



Gilbi It was a very risky bttsiness« publishing, wasnH itt 



Ooggins: Hot for them* They lasted a long tipie* But it was 

 not a big business* I remember, at the tine, 

 there was no publishing ooi^any that would be 



