had some kind of diffe3?enee with them, geve It tip 



and cmoiB home* 

 Gllbi We3?e there any other writers of that period with 



whom you were especially Intimate that we haven't 



mentioned? 

 Cogglns: There weren't many novelists here in that p«riod« 



Mostly poets. 

 Glib: Did you know Charles Norrls? 

 Cogglns: Ho* Met him, but I dldn t know hlm« They were in 



New York a great deal, he and Kathleen Norrls* 



Heraan Vhlttaker I knew pretty well* He wrote 



The Settler and The Planter , stories of Mexico* 



He went Into Mexico and pioneered the atmosphere 



and life down there* 



Stewart JEdward White was here for awhile and 



lived out on the Peninsula* But offhand, I couldnH 



■ake you a list of novelists like I could of poets* 

 Glib: You didn't get' into the Carmel group at all? 

 Cogglns: No* I don*t know who was there at the time, mostly 



short story people, if they were there. Jimmy Hopper 



it* in&k. Sinclair llveitf there ter awhile « 

 Gllbi Wasn't Sinclair Lewis there for awhile? 

 Cogglns: Sinclair Lewis, yes* He was a friend of Upton 



Sinclair, you know* I don't know If he was kind 



of a protege or not, but Upton Sinclair organized 



