Tim Sooiallst morroment has alwajs looked 

 larger than it really is* The real Soolaliati 

 corps is small* Around it are people who ar<i 

 syn^athatie and who would be willing to go with 

 It if it sueceededf but who fundamentally were 

 more opportunistio and had to be. 7ou should be 

 economically independent to be a Socialist* One 

 of our problems was labor. We were taMng about 

 a millenium and they were talking about better 

 wages today. And there was always a conflict. 

 Only where labor was strong and where we ran a 

 member who was a union member did we get the 

 advantage of labor support* 



Now we had a union man running in Oakland^ 

 Mr. Booths who was an old English Labor Party man... 



Oilbt The Gorapers type? 



Coggins! Perhaps. And he scared them to death down there. 



Oilbs Because he was more for business unionism than for 

 f\mdamental changes. 



Coggins: He himself was a Socialist. He knew the Socialist 

 picture. But he had hie big support becaiise he 

 was a labor man. He'd have gone as f&r as the 

 local labor wanted and even further if he could. 



