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011b 1 So it was a bourgeois ^ Protestant movement* 



Cogglntt Largely, yes. The Catholles did not line up in 

 any official way« 



Gllbt And not only you were pacifist but large ntimbers 

 of Sooialists were* 



Cogginst The movement was pacifist* And the People *s Council— 

 I guess you're not familiar with that* 



Glib! Ho* Would you explain it to lae? 



Cogginat VQien the war started, there was a very spontaneous 

 movement starting in New York* Louis Lockner, who 

 afterwards was the foreign correspondent, still 

 is, and a group of people, and all of the California 

 people, were up in arms about this war, and they 

 called a convention in Minneapolis* They had 

 within a very short tiaa nearly two million 

 signatures asking Wilson to keep out of the war* 

 We went there* I was a delegate and went to 

 Minneapolis* The mayor kept us from meeting* Then 

 we went over to Chicago. William Hale Thoc^json, 

 the mayor there, invited us there* And the Governor, 

 on the other hand, wanted to clear us out and 

 threatened us with the state militia* We held our 

 nee tings Just the same, though* Lots of people 

 were members. Dr* Jordan was a member* Senator 



