Ill 



Gilbt Then that mftunt that the Coiarmmiet Pli[X*ty dort of 

 took the guts out of Socialism, 



Cogglnss I>m not sure* I think the New Deal set the 



Soeialist Party baek more than the Communista did* 



GllbJ In fact, theoreticellyt the Socialists were not 

 eosmltted to that form of actiont anyway* 



Coggina: No* They hadn*t been committed to it* I mean, of 

 course — Jack London uaed to aign himself , "Your a 

 for the Ee volution^** but he didn't a tart one* 

 Ihen the time caaa— 



Gilb: Capitalist I Ckughter) What was your feeling about 

 Communism at that time? Did you feel any twinge of 

 aympathy toward it? 



Coggina: Oh yes, I did* I thought they had a good deal on 

 their aide, but X have never been sold on the 

 effectiveness of violence and I have no ambition 

 to be a hero* It was a dilemma* Wartime waa not a 

 good tins for education; people are too emotional 

 end economic problems are pushed aaide* Wages are 

 big* 



Oilbi Did you protest actively the Criminal Syndicalism 

 laws? 



Coggins: Oh yes* Many conservative and liberal people 



oppcaed it vigorously* We uaed to have meetings 

 in agr atore to fight it* The Communists were on 



