CJilbJ And the loss of Debs, you feel, badly hurt the 



morale of the Party here. 

 CogglnsJ Yes, It was sort of tine ly, as if it was the notice 



of the end of the Party. 

 Gilbl But did you continue to be, vote Socialist? 

 Goggins: Yes* Whenever there was a candidate* 



EPIC 



Glib: There was a strong Socialist moreinent, or in a way 



'IS ^^ 



Soc5a list movement^ the SPXC movement, in California, 

 in the 1930*s* Now how do you feel about that? 



Cogginsx That was another thing that weakened the Party, 



because the EPIC movement was such a well planned 

 thing, A lot of unemployed people, xmemployed 

 brains, seemed to come in that moveiMnt, and with 

 the money they had «•• you see EPIC advertisements 

 up in the mountains. They did a wonderful 

 eajnpaign Job, 



GilbJ Where did they get the money? 



Coggins! They used services. They would donate this and 

 that. There would always be painters that would 

 paint their signs for them, 



0ilbt Tou mean they had intangible wealth. 



