CogginsJ Yes. They had resources, would cooperate • 1 think 

 they had the old age people among themjr who vez^ a 

 diflnite^ stable group* I think It v«t f*««ll7 to#.t 

 bad the Socialist Party hadn't learned something 

 from that f and had some of that spirits The 

 eemitt^ peepla w»re all for It. These farm wives 

 would be out working, 



ailbs How about the Socialists? How did they feel? Your 

 group? 



Cogglns: Upton Sinclair left the Party and started the 

 moveB^nt with his p«xi3>hlet^ *'I^ Governor of 

 Calif oi^lft,"^ fhdiuie was quite put out about lt« 

 Be was out here at the tlioe* Sinclair* s son stayed 

 with the Socialist Party. Told his father he 

 Should read his own books, (laughter) 



Gllbs Did you feel that you wanted to back Sinclair? 



Cogglns: Ho, but 1 eiiTled them their movement. I thought « 

 you 8ee-«I don't know what to say In explanation 

 of It. After all, the Socialist Party was made up 

 «^ a. lot of People who did not do well under 

 eapitalism. They were not skilled people. They 

 had not been effective In making a living, and 

 mmf hadnH developed any great skill of any kind. 

 They were Just protesters and they would talk. 



