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Cogglns: I did* I spoke about six or seven jeers in 



succession^ until I got tired or roy own voice « and 

 then on the organization's twenty-fifth anniversary 

 I spoke again* I promised sometiiae again to give the 

 talk that X gave in 1931 # which I had heard about 

 a great deal. I poke fun at the business as lauoh 

 as possible* 



Gilbt Do you ever talk Soeialisw among the other Jobbers? 



Cogginsi Hot openly. I*ve never been asked to. (laughter) 



Oilbt How do their polities usually runf 



Cogginsj They're conservatives* They're not all people of 

 great cultural background* They're people who 

 worked their way up* Sone' if %hea are aeehaaies* 

 They've got to the stage where they feel that what 

 they've earned belongs to them and the thought of 

 the government taking away doesn't seem fair to 

 them. I heve ridiculed a good many of our practices* 

 That was one of the things that was b3*ought against 

 ae» that I was a Socialist* 



Gilb: Brought against you by whom? 



Coggins: Patterson. 



Oilbt Oh* I thought he was a Socialist also* 



Coggins: He was* But he became resentful after he saw that 

 the business was continuing to rtin* 



