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getting 150 lbs. off of her, and feeding three times & day the last six weeks. Take 

 these pigs and put another 10ft lbs. on so as to make them weigh 180 to 190 lbs. at 

 six months old; the second 100 lbs. is as cheap as the first. 



Mr. Musimd. Will it, pay to keep the sow? 



Mr. Reveal. The question is, making the first 100 lbs. the cheapest. After a pig 

 weighs 100 lbs. it eats considerable but not much before. If you go to 600 or 800 

 lbs. it will cost more, as the animal grows slower. The question is, which is the 

 cheaper hundred. I claim that the first is the cheaper. 



Mr. Mustard. I am feeding a little just now for fun. The first 100 lbs. won't 

 pay at all, if you stop there, but the second will. 



Mr. Barker. You want to know if the first hundred is not the cheaper. I am 

 satisfied there is not much diflTerence. 



Mr. Mustard. We must take into consideration the keeping of the sow. It may 

 be, Mr. President* that you and I are a little oftj but I think that is the right way 

 to look at this; after the pig weighs 100 lbs. the sow has nothing to do with it. 



Mr. Dye. It does not occur to my mind that we should take out the real value 

 of the sow for the first 100 lbs., but only the cost of feeding her while the pigs are 

 growing the 100 lbs. 



Mr. Beeler. We should take into accohnt the time and expense of feeding and 

 caring for the sow from the time she was served until the pigs are weaned; 

 also of the boar which would serve many sows. 



Mr. Thomas. I am satisfied that I can put on the second 100 lbs. the cheaper after 

 caring for the sow and paying for a graded boar. 



Mr. Williams. I can take a hog that has got its growth and in thin order, and 

 put flesh on cheaper than on one that is growing. A pig that is growing you must 

 have some feed for bone and muscle, while if it has its growth it fattens more readily. 



Mr. Reveal. Do you advocate keeping hogs thin for breeders ? 



Mr, Williams. No. I can not sell thin hogs. I believe the best results in our 

 herd have been from pigs under grade and left at home. They have made some 

 of the grandest show hogs we have had. 



Air. Thomas. With sows and pigs running on grass, the sows will get thin by 

 the first of September. 



Mr. Williams. It takes more corn to make the sow, but all she has to do is to 

 fill up. 



Mr. Dye. I want to know if there is any breeder here that has experimented 

 as to which would make the greatest gain, feeding in good flesh or a thin hog; I 

 never read of but one experiment of this kind, that man moved on a farm and 

 let a part of his pigs run on clover and did not feed any grain more than feeding 

 in the fall. The others he fed some grain during the summer, and he stated that the 

 hogs that were fed through the summer put on flesh more rapidly than the others. 



Mr. Cook. I have had some experience in feeding hogs, counting the cost of 

 feeding sows and boars the firf^t 100 pounds is not the cheaper. In fact it costs con- 

 siderable to keep a sow through the winter, and by the time the pigs are weaned 

 they are ready to fatten. Counting the cost makes the second 100 pounds the 

 cheaper, but if we do not count the cost of feeding the sow and keeping the boar, 

 the first 100 pounds is the cheapest. 



