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Mr. Barker. These fat stocTc shows are great educators. It would pay any man 

 to cross the continent to witness that show at Chicago. He would learn more there 

 in one week about meat producing qualities than he would in a year any other 

 way. If we do not have one of our own I would recommend to go even as far as 

 San Francisco to attend one. It is a grand affair. 



Mr. W. E. Jackson. I am not going to bushwhack, from this fact, I hardly 

 coincide with the fat stock show at Chicago. Last fall I was there. There is no 

 one who doubts but it was a grand show. From the eastern part of the State there 

 were very few breeders, and as a whole we were not well represented. It was a 

 large exhibition, worth a trip to go and see, but it is a little out of our reach. If 

 we had a fat stock show near home, we would be more benefited than to have one 

 at Chicago, although a larger one. I am in accord with any movement that would 

 tend to increase our knowledge and lead to raising more thoroughbred stock. In- 

 diana, in proportion to size, stands first in the production of pork ; why shall we 

 not still hold our ground ? There is no reason why we should not. If we met with 

 reverses last year on account of the flood and the political campaign, we should not 

 become discouraged. I favor starting on a small scale here at Indianapolis. We 

 need not confine it here, but organize it in conjunction with other national shows. 

 As we have other organizations I see no reason why we should not take steps in 

 that direction, on behalf of the breeders of Indiana of the various kinds of stock, 

 and start a small show this next fall. 



Mr. Williams. Is is no use for us to undertake a fat stock show. There are 

 thousands and thousands of dollars donated at Chicago to aid that show. When I 

 went to Chicago I was surprised to see so few people there. Nevertheless the show 

 was great. While there I saw the grand sweepstakes hog and also its owner. It 

 was of the Poland China breed. He had been "trimmed," and a man paid ten 

 cents a pound for every pound of flesh he put on. He was fed principally on milk- 



Mr. Jackson. I would not have my friend Williams think that we intend to try 

 to compete with Chicago the first year, but we can start with more hogs than they 

 had last year. As far as those large premiums are concerned, we can not tell much 

 about that yet. They started on a much smaller basis than they now are, and we 

 can do the same. We can not pay high premiums, but we might pay enough to 

 justify exhibitors to show. Our expenses here are not so great as there at Chicago, 

 consequently we can show for less premium. In looking over this field it may be 

 that we can not maintain one, but I think there would be nothing lost in the effort. 

 " Where there is a will there is a way." 



Mr. Reveal. There has one thought occurred to me since Mr. Williams spoke: 

 I think he need not be afraid of the buttermilk man in Illinois. Mr. Williams 

 can beat that man if he were to start out. Meat made from milk alone is not so 

 eood as meat made from some corn — this changes the quality as well as quantity. 



Mr. Mustard. If I were feeding a hog for that show I would feed corn — by this 

 you will test the quality of pork. I don't intend to feed milk, but am going to 

 feed the very best of corn, and I will have the best of meat. 



Mr. Jackson. That hog at Chicago which was fed on buttermilk presented a 

 nice appearance, but I have serious doubts about the quality of the meat. 



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