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tried the Cyprean and left them on the spot. I query whether the Holy Land is 

 different from the Italian. It was difficult to point them out at Cincinnati, and I 

 have quit searching for fine bees. 



COMB FOUNDATION. 



Secretary Daugherty. So far as my knowledge is concerned there is not much 

 difference. It depends on circumstances and condition of the colony. The Dadant 

 foundation is the nicest in the world, without any exception. I can not say that 

 I am favorable to the Vanduzen, neither am I satisfied with the foundation made 

 on the average rolls. The Dadant foundation is my preference. 



Mr. Muth. The Vanduzen is good enough for anybody. The Dadant is also a 

 good foundation. I use both. 



Mr. Leming. I have been using the Dadant foundation. I regard it the best I 

 have ever tried. I have also used Root's. The Saulsbury stands up well and don't 

 break down, but when it comes to the color the Saulsbury foundation was not nice, 

 frequently dark. 



Mr. Scholl. Has there been any improvement in fastening the foundation to 

 the frame, so that there is little or no sagging? 



Secretary Daugherty. No improvement has been made outside of fastening with 

 wire. It is a question, in my mind ; when we use wire frame exclusively, a sheet 

 of foundation will hold it perfectly, and is done with just as much ease as fastened 

 to the top bar, and will not fall off. 



Mr. Scholl. Did you experiment with the wire lengthwise? 



Secretary Daugherty. No, sir, I did not. 



Mr. Muth. I would prefer to have them lengthwise. 



Secretary Daugherty. Mr. Muth would not use wire frames if we were to give 

 them to him. 



Mr. Muth. My frame is a beveled one to which I fasten the foundation and 

 frame over a board. We then put another on the board which sticks and makes it 

 solid. If there is a space three-eighths of an inch open it will settle that much, 

 and if it is a Vanduzen foundation it will settle more. I do not see why we should 

 go to the expense of wiring frames, for others are strong enough. 



Mr. Leming. I take the foundation and fasten it in the frame in the way that 

 Mr. Muth speaks of. It would sometimes bulge a little. My plan never bulges. 

 I take a sheet of foundation and lay it in the frame, and have a thin strip, one- 

 sixteenth of an inch thick, laying on the case, and with little tacks fasten it to the 

 frame. I raise my frame, the foundation bends down and hangs in the center, 

 which gives three-eighths of an inch from the bottom bar. By the time you draw 

 out it will fill to the bottom bar without sagging whatever. Those strips hold it 

 solid and prevent sagging. 



Mr. Anderson. I have been very much interested in this discussion, and if we 

 could have a little more I think it would set me on the right track. I have visited 

 the apiary of Gully & Davis, to ascertain if they had any trouble on account of 

 not wiring. 



