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vicious bull once, and he was as docile as could be desired after that. I believe that the hired man 

 causes more vicious animals than anything else. Lots of people don't handle their cattle right. 



Q. Bow did the cow that you dehorned do? A. It healed up nicely. She was vicious 

 before but is not now ; in fact shj is the other way. 



Q. Have you ever heard of cows that were dehorned and that suffered excessively ? A. No, 

 I can't say that I have. 



Q. Do you know of any farmer who has dehorned his cattle and is now dissatisfied ? A. 

 No, they are all satisfied as far as I know. 



Henry Goldino, farmer, Thamesford, sworn, said : I am engaged in general farming, and 

 keep from 30 to 40 head for beefing chiefly. I am opposed to dehorning as I think the catt e 

 are all right without it, except in special cases. 



Q. Have you had cattle or other animals injured by the horns ? A. No ; well I had some 

 sheep injured once. Of course cattle dehorned cannot hurt each other. 



Q. What are your objections to cutting off the horns 1 A. I think it is cruelty, and then 

 the awe is judged by the horns. 



Q. But if there were no horns might buyers not find other means of judging as to the age ? 

 A. I suppose they might. 



Q. Now, you think it is painful ; have you seen the operation 1 A. No, I have only seen 

 two cows that had been dehorned. I think that to tip the horns of vicious animals would be 

 sufficient. 



James H. Wilson, veterinary surgeon, London, sworn, testified as follows: I am a graduate 

 of the Ontario Veterinary College, and have been practising in London for the past 24 years. 

 My practice is among the farmers as well as in town. So far as I can see dehorning is not a 

 necessity. I have not been called upon much professionally for injuries done by horns, 

 only one cow and two or three cases of horses. It may be, as dairymen say, that the animals 

 are quieter after dehorning, but 1 think this is because of the tenderness of the head after 

 the operation. I lived on a farm until I was 20 and we always found tipping to be sufficient. 

 I should say the reason why dehorned animals are so quiet is that they are afraid to come in 

 contact with each other. I would not say there was constant suffering unless when the dehorned 

 part comes in contact with a hard substance. 



Q. Now, if there was a measure of good flowing from this practice would you consider it 

 justifiable ? A. It all depends on the measure of good. I think the practice could only be 

 justified if there was a great amount of good. 



Q. Have you ever been called upon in your practice to take horns off ? A. No, but I 

 have attended several that had their horns broken. 



Q. There were signs of pain ? A. Yes, such as shaking the head, sneezing, switching the 

 tail and stamping the feet. 



Q. Suppose a cow gets her horn broken at six in the morning say, would there be a rise of 

 temperature at 12 o'clock. A. Yes, about three hours after, and there would be a quickening 

 of the pulse. 



Q. If you could get a quickened pulse and a higher temperature what effect would that 

 have on the milk ? A. The milk woul 1 not be as good and there might not be as much. 



Q. You have never seen this operation performed 1 A. No, I don't want to see it. 



Q. "W hy ' A. Because I think it is an outrage upon the animal creation. The membi'ane 

 lining of the horn is highly sensitive, and the horn is supplied with blood vessels and nerves ; 

 these accompany each other. 



Q. You agree that nature immediately begins to repair the wound, and that there is a 

 discharge of mucous I A. Or of pus, sometimes we have healing by first intention, but 1 fancy 

 that in many of these cases it would not heal in that way. Pus would be discharged and it 

 would run down over the wound. 



Q. Would you say that where it is stated there was a discharge of something that that 

 discharge was pus ? A. No, I could not tell that. 



Q. How would you recognise the difference 1 A. Pus is a little thicker, and there is 

 generally a little odor. The wound can only heal through a certain inflammatory process. 



Q. Then suppose the curative process is brought about in this way is there necessarily 

 pain ? A. Yes, there would be some. 



Q. What amount of suffering is involved in the healing over of the aperture ? A. We could 

 not measure it well, but there would be considerable. I don't think there is a necessity for the 

 dehorning of cattle, or that the benefits are adequate. If tht animal were dangerous to man 

 and tipping were not sufficient then it might be justified. I can't see any reason why a quiet 

 animal should have its horns taken off. 



CALEB H. MxxlsoN, farmer, White Oak, sworn said : I keep at present nine head of cattle 

 and have kept from thirty to forty with my brother. I cut tho tips ofi the horns of one of my 



