1198 AWAKD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



ery, as they mash a large quantity of the fish, catch both large and 

 small mackerel, and all kinds of fish ; the fish are spoiled if they are 

 allowed to remain twenty-four hours in the seine. The seine is tripped 

 and the fish wbich fall out are bad for the grounds. The schools of 

 mackerel are also broken up by purse seining and the fish frightened 

 away. 1 have never seen nor heard of any Canadian vessel using purse 

 seines. 



12. The Americans catch squid for bait, herring and mackerel they 

 catch, but principally buy for bait because it saves time and expense. 

 This bait they get in this harbor and in the bays and harbors along the 

 Canadian coast from Cape Sable to Labrador. 



13. I have seen the Americans seining codfish on the Canadian coast 

 of Labrador. Large quantities of these fish are taken inshore by Cana- 

 dian fishermen, and thousands of Canadians depend upon these fish for 

 a livelihood. 



14. The mackerel make inshore to feed ; their food is found inshore. 

 They spawn inshore. They are taken principally inshore, and I consider 

 them to be an inshore fish. 



15. The Americans save time and expense by transshipping cargo, 

 and catch more fish. I think each vessel saves upwards of $2,000 by 

 this privilege. 



16. It is of great value to the Americans to procure bait in Canadian 

 bays, harbors, and creeks inshore, nor could they prosecute the fisheries 

 in Canadian water, either inshore or offshore or on the banks, without 

 this bait. They get bait and ice all along our coast, and without ice 

 they could not keep their bait fresh, and without fresh bait they could 

 not profitably catch fish. 



17. The Americans hinder Canadian fishermen to a large extent by 

 carrying off so many fish, by taking fish by improper methods, by mak- 

 ing bait scarce for Canadian vessels, of which there are about a hundred 

 owned in this place and around the La Have. 



18. I have never known nor heard of any Canadian vessel fishing in 

 American waters. 



19. I would consider it a great benefit to Canadian fishermen if Amer- 

 icans were excluded from our inshore waters, and I know of no benefits 

 that we derive from American fishermen. 



JAMES S. RICHARD. 



Sworn to at Getson's Cove, in the county of Lunenburg, this 9th day 

 of August, A. D.. 1877, before me. 



BENJ. RYNARD, J. P. 



No. 82. 



In the matter of the Fisheries Commission at Halifax, under the Treaty 



of Washington. 



I, JACOB GROSER, of Lower La Have, in the county of Lunenburg, 

 fisherman, make oath and say as follows : 



1. I have been about forty years engaged in the fisheries. I have 

 fished along the southern coast of Nova Scotia, around the Island of 

 Cape Breton, on the eastern coast of New Brunswick, around Prince 

 Edward Island, the Magdalen Islands, and the Lower St. Lawrence, 

 and am well acquainted with the inshore fishery in Lnneuburg County. 



2. Four years ago I was in the Bay of Chaleur, and for many years 

 constantly before that time year after year. Five years ago I have seen 

 in the Bay of Chaleur from two to three hundred American vessels in 



