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deep-sea fishery. Without ice the Americans could not preserve their 

 bait. 



12. No vessels have ever gone out of Lunenburg County to fish in 

 American waters, because our own grounds are better and nearer. 



13. So many American fishing-vessels hinder Canadians by carrying 

 off the fish by lee-bowing them, enticing away the fish, and taking fish 

 by improper means. 



14. I have often heart! from those engaged in the fisheries around our 

 coast, that they obtained goods from the Americans in exchange for 

 fish, thereby injuring the honest dealer, and defrauding the revenue. 



15. Our fisheries are of the greatest value to us, and I know of no equiv- 

 alent which the Americans can give us; and if they were excluded it 

 would be of great value to us. 



W. N. ZWICKEE. 



Sworn to at Lunenburg, in the county of Lunenburg, this 6th day of 

 August, A. D. 1877, before me. 



HENRY S. JOST, J. P. 



No. 92. 



In the matter of the Fisheries Commission, at Halifax, under the Treaty 



of Washington. 



I, ISAAC LOHNES, of Middle La Have, in the county of Lunenburg, 

 fisherman, make oath and say as follows : 



1. I have been engaged in the fisheries for twenty-eight years past 

 every year down to the present time. I have fished all along the south- 

 ern coast of Nova Scotia, around Prince Edward Island, on cue eastern 

 coast of New Brunswick, around the Magdaleues, and on the Canadian 

 coast of Labrador, and am well acquainted with the inshore fishery in 

 Luneuburg County. I have taken all the kinds of fish found upon the 

 above-mentioned coasts. 



2. I left the North Bay a week ago where I was engaged in cod-fishing 

 and saw from day to day about ten American vessels engaged in taking 

 mackerel with purse seines. About five years ago I along with Cana- 

 dian and American skippers have made calculations as to the number 

 of America-n mackerel men in the North Bay and we concluded there 

 were seven hundred sail. 



3. Mackerel in my experience are taken mostly all inshore, and it 

 would not pay to tit out a vessel to take mackerel unless they can be 

 taken inshore within three miles. The American mackerel men carry 

 from seventeen to twenty-four men. They take from two to three hun- 

 dred barrels to each vessel, on each trip, and generally make three tiips 

 each year. 



4. The American vessels carry from twelve to fifteen men and take 

 about a thousand quintals to each vessel. They make three such trips 

 including a trip to the Banks. At present I would say that there are 

 upwards of fifty codfish vessels in the North Bay, which are American. 



5. Mackerel in my experience has varied, being some years good and 

 others poor. In 1872 the catch of mackerel was good and they were 

 plentiful in the North Bay when I left. From 1871 to 1876 the cod-fish- 

 ing has been as good as I ever saw it any time previous. During the 

 past two years it has not been quite so good. Herring has always been 

 plenty except this summer when it has not been so good. 



6. The Americans within the last three years have taken mackerel 



