1232 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



and bave taken mackerel, herring, codfish, halibut, and all the kinds 

 of fish found in this vicinity. I fished in a whale-boat around Cow Bay, 

 Scaterie, Miri Bay, Main-a-Dieu, and Lorraine, and have taken on an 

 average about $600 worth of fish for the last fifty years each year. 



2. During the before-mentioned period I have seen many American 

 vessels engaged in fishing in the places aloresaid. I have seen in one 

 day .from fifty to sixty of these American vessels. These American ves- 

 sels came round the southern coast of Cape Breton, and did not run 

 through the Strait of Canso. During the past five or six years I have 

 seen on an average, during the fishing season, over a hundred Ameri- 

 can fishing-vessels in and near the waters where I fished, and I have 

 often found it difficult to keep out of their way. Those American ves- 

 sels take all kinds of fish mackerel, codfish, and halibut. On board 

 these vessels there are from sixteen down to ten men on each. 



3. The Americans take fish around where I fish mackerel by jig- 

 ging, and codfish with trawls. The Americans take all the large fish 

 by trawling, and throw away any small fish taken, which poisons the 

 rest of the fish in the water. 



4. The Americans, in my experience, always come in close for mack- 

 erel, and set their trawls inside of Scaterie Island for halibut and cod- 

 fish. 



5. The Americans injure the inshore fishery, upon which I and hun- 

 dreds more around here depend. The Americans about five or six years 

 ago used to throw overboard bait and draw off the mackerel. This they 

 made a general practice of, and I have often, along with other boats, 

 been injured in this way. 



6. I have seen Americans take large quantities of bait inshore within 

 three miles of the shore. This bait they took with hook and line be- 

 tween Flint Island and Scaterie, also haddock for halibut bait. 



7. The mackerel, codfish, and halibut have, in my experience, de- 

 creased somewhat. This is owing to the American fishermen and their 

 plans of taking fish. 



his 



THOMAS + LAHEY. 

 mark. 



Sworn to before me at Main-a-Dieu, in the countv of Cape Breton, the 

 27th day of July, 1877. 



GEO. EIGBY, J. P. 



No. 113. 



In the matter of the Fisheries Commission at Halifax, under the Treaty 



of Washington. 



I, DANIEL GOODWIN, of Cape Canso, in the county of Gnysborough, 

 fisherman, make oath and say as follows: 



1. I have been engaged in the fishery business for twenty-one years. 

 Ten of these I was with the Americans cod-fishing. About eigh hun- 

 dred American sail fish forced each season. We used to fish on Grand 

 Bank, Western Bank, and La Have Bank. One year we fished off Cape 

 North, Island of Cape Breton. The average tonnage of each vessel 

 would be 65 tons at least, and the crews of each from ten to twelve men. 

 At first we used to fish with salt bait and what we could get on the 

 Banks. During the last five or six years we got our bait in the British 

 provinces. By using the fresh bait we could catch fish much better. 

 In fact, little or no fishing can be done with salt bait. It is no use to 



