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use salt bait when fresh bait is being used. If I could not get fresh bait I 

 would not attempt to fish on the Banks with salt bait. If the Americans 

 had to go home after their bait, it would spoil before they reached the 

 fishing grounds. Besides this, it would be a great loss of time to them 

 and prevent them from catching the fish in such quantities as they now 

 can. By having the privileges granted by the Treaty of Washington, 

 they can carry on the fishing ; without them they cannot prosecute them 

 and make them pay. 



2. Each vessel makes from two to three trips each season, and catch 

 each on an average one hundred thousand pounds of green fish. This 

 would make seven hundred quintals of dry fish. I mean they average 

 that much each trip. This 1 consider a fair statement. 



3. All fish under twenty-one inches when the head is cutoff' is thrown 

 away by the Americans. This I consider very destructive to the fish- 

 eries. Those small fish are similar to those caught inshore by Canadian 

 fishermen. 



4. Before I was fishing with the Americans I was engaged in the 

 mackerel-fishing. The Americans used to fish inshore with the Canadian 

 fishermen at that time. I have seen as many as five hundred sail en- 

 gaged in the mackerel fishery during one season. They fished every- 

 where like the Canadian fishermen. This was during the Reciprocity 

 Treaty. 



5. The Americans buy ice and bait because it pays them best. They 

 save a third in quantity of the ice used. Each vessel would average 

 twenty-five tons per season. 



6. I never heard or saw any Canadian vessel fishing in American 

 waters. The right to fish in American waters is worth nothing. 



DANIEL GOODWIN. 



Sworn to at Canso, in the county of Guysborough, this 25th day of 

 July, A. D. 1877, before me. 



JAMES A. TOJBY, 

 Justice of Peace for the County of Guysborough. 



No. 114. 



In the matter of the Fisheries Commission at Halifax, under the Treaty 



of Washington. 



I, WILLIAM KELLY, of Lingau, in the county of Cape Breton, fisher- 

 man, make' oath and say as follows: 



1. I have been engaged in fishing for more than fifty years, mostly in 

 the inshore fishery for fourteen of those years. I owned a fishiug- vessel 

 and fished all along the coast from Cape North to Scaterie. In this 

 vessel there were five hands besides myself. 



2. In this vessel I have taken all kinds of fish mackerel, codfish, 

 halibut, herring, and dogfish. 



3. The mackerel were taken all inshore by me, and during the last 

 twenty years I have seen as many as from twenty to thirty American 

 fishing-vessels engaged in fishing mackerel at one time within three 

 miles of the coast. There were many vessels around which I hadn't 

 sight of. 



4. About nine years ago I used to take large quantities of codfish and 

 halibut. In one week I have taken from thirty to forty quintals of cod- 

 fish and two hundred halibut. The halibut measured from three to 

 seven and a half feet in length. Herring 1 always took inshore, and 



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