AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 1265 



5. The Americans trawl on Scaterie Bank for codfish. They trawl to 

 the bottom and catch the mother fish, which are full of spawn. They 

 dress their fish on the fishing grounds, throwing overboard the offal, 

 which is very injurious to the fish, the sound bone killing many large 

 fish. 



6. The practices of the Americans tend to injure the inshore fishery 

 very much. 



7. Mackerel run inshore to feed and spawn, and our fishermen take 

 them inshore. Americans have taken mackerel all round our coast, and 

 have at one time transshipped mackerel in this port. This privilege 

 saves fish and enables them to make a larger catch. 



8. The Americans get ice and bait in harbors round our shores, and 

 without ice and bait they would be unable to make successful voyages. 



9. I have never known nor heard of any Canadian vessels fishing in 

 American waters, and know of no benefit they can derive from so doing. 



10. The large number of American vessels fishing in Canadian waters 

 must diminish the catch. 



11. If Americans were excluded from our waters, I have no doubt but 

 it would be a general benefit to Canadian fishermen. 



DONALD McDOUGALL. 



Sworn to at Main-a-Dieu, in the county of Cape Breton, this 28th day 

 of July, before me. 



GEO. RIGBY, J. P. 



No. 140. 



In the matter of the Fisheries Commission at Halifax, under the Treaty 



of Washington. 



I, JOHN BAGNALL, of Gabarus, in the county of Cape Breton, at 

 present of Louisburg, in the county aforesaid, fisherman, make oath and 

 say as follows : 



1. I have been engaged for about fifty years in the inshore fisheries, 

 in and around Gabarus Bay, in the county aforesaid, and have taken 

 mackerel, codfish, herring, and halibut, and am well acquainted with 

 the manner in which the inshore fishery is there conducted. 



2. About six or seven years ago there were some American fishing- 

 vessels in Gabarus Bay. During the past five or six years they have 

 purchased bait in small quantities in Gabarus Bay. 



3. Mackerel and halibut are taken in Gabarus Bay. Codfish and her- 

 ring are taken in large quantities. Three years ago about three hun- 

 dred barrels of mackerel were taken in this bay, and there are about 

 one hundred boats fishing around the bay, and this summer these boats 

 have taken from eight to sixty barrels in each boat. In Gabarus Bay 

 there are from six to seven thousand quintals of codfish taken yearly. 

 All this fish is taken in boats. To the people around Gabarus Bay these 

 fisheries are of great value. 



4. The mackerel and herring are inshore fish, and are mostly all taken 

 inshore. Three-fourths of the mackerel and herring is inshore. 



I am to day at Louisburg, but reside and fish at Gabarus. 



JOHN BAGNALL. 



Sworn to at Louisburg this 26th day of July, in the county of Cape 

 Breton, before me, 



PATRICK OTOOLE 

 J. P. for and in Vie County of Cape Breton. 

 80 F 



