AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 137<J 



No. 244. 



In the matter of the Fisheries Commission at Halifax, under the Treaty 



of Washington. 



I, JOHN CARTER, of Port Mouton, in the county of Queen's, at present 

 of Lockeport, in the county of Shelburue, fisherman, make oath and nay 

 as follows : 



1. I have been engaged in fishing for eighteen years in American ves- 

 sels, and in Nova Scotia vessels for twelve vears. I was in an Ameri- 

 can vessel this spring. While in American vessels I fished codfish on 

 the Western and Quero Banks, and trawled codfish in the North Bay. 

 I fished mackerel in American vessels year after year, down until the 

 fall before last, around the north side of Cape Breton, around Prince 

 Edward Island, the Magdalens, and on the eastern side of New Bruns- 

 wick. 



2. When in the North Bay, I have seen at one time five hundred fish- 

 ing-vessels, most of whom were Americans, engaged iu taking 

 mackerel. In the falls of seventy-one, two, and three, the catch of 

 mackerel in the North Bay was good. In the fall of seventy-three I 

 was in the American schooner Waterfall, of South port, Me., and we 

 took in four weeks three hundred and twenty barrels ; a crew of thirteen 

 hands were on board. The mackerel trim the shore, and the most; of 

 them are taken inshore. 



3. When fishing on the Banks iu American vessels we always made 

 good fares, taking on an average from seven to eight hundred quintals 

 each trip, and two trips each year, carrying from eleven to twelve men. 

 This I have done for six years now past. 



4. The Americans get their bait for trawling inshore in the bays and 

 harbors of Nova Scotia, and along the Canadian coast, and without 

 this bait, and ice in which to keep it fresh, they could not carry ou 

 trawling. 



hi 



JOHN 4- CARTER, 

 mark. 



'Sworn to at Lockeport, in the county of Shelburne, this 23i day of 

 August, A. D. 1877, before me, the same being read over to the within- 

 named deponent. 



JACOB LOCKE, J. P. 



No. 245. 



Came and appeared before me, one of Her Majesty's justices of the 

 peace, in and for the district of Gaspe", WILLIAM McLfiOD, esq., J. 

 who deposeth and saith that he has had an interview with Capt. 

 Henry Smith, master of schooner W. T. Smith, of Gloucester, Mass., 

 while lying in the harbor of Port Daniel, on a mackerel-fishing voyage, 

 about ten days ago. 



He being the same Captain Smith mentioned by him, -"N il 

 Leod, in his evidence before the Commission at Halifax, he referred I 

 to some remarks he had made to him some few years ago, on the e 

 results of seining on our shores and throwing fish offal overboard, p 

 ticularly in our harbors and near the mouths of rivers where 

 resort and other young fry propagate. That he, the said 

 Smith, does recollect that conversation, and also of stati 

 in comparison to killing the goose that laid the golden egg 



