AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 1715 



ami there not only bave they taken bait for their own purposes, but 

 they have taken it and proceeded to St. Pierre, have sold it to the French 

 fishermen, thereby directly competing with the Newfoundlanders in a 

 trade formerly entirely their own, and doubtless as it is a lucrative bus- 

 iness the Americans will more and more practice it. They also catch 

 bait-fishes to a large extent. I would now call your attention to the 

 evidence which sustains the position I have thus assumed. 



Mr. Killigrew, at p. 15S of the British Evidence, in answer to the 

 question 



Q. How do they obtaiu caplin arid squid f .Do they take this bait themselves or 

 purchase it from the people? A. It is iu this way they generally hire a man who 

 owns a seine, and the crew of the American vessel goes with him. This man receives 

 so much for the use of his seine and for his services. 



Q. This has reference to caplin ? A. Yes. 



Q. How do they obtain squid? A. They purchase it if they can; otherwise they 

 catch it themselves. 



Mr. Bennett, at p. 140 of the British Evidence : 



Q. I want to understand whether in those localities American fishermen have been 

 constantly coming in during the summer for bait ? A. Yes ; every day during the 

 season. 



Q. The bait was sometimes purchased from the people and sometimes caught by 

 themselves ? A. I think they always combined the two together. When taking the 

 herring themselves with seines, their crew would haul in the herring with the assist- 

 ance of the seining-raaster, and when jigging for squid the crew jig what they can and 

 the skipper buys what he can. When seeking caplin they assist in the same way ; 

 some vessels bring their own seines for the purpose of taking caplin. 



Q. What are the habits of squid? A. Squid are never taken around Newfoundland 

 except near the shore, on ledges, generally in a harbor or entrance to a harbor. 



Mr. John F. Taylor, p. 296 of the British Evidence : 

 At Newfoundland Americans sometimes fish for bait inshore. 



Mr. Patrick Leary, p. 66 British Affidavits : 



*I supplied him (James Dunphy) with bait. In 1870 and 1^75 I gave him forty bar- 

 rels of caplin each year He found the crew, and I found the seine and gear. He paid 

 me eight dollars each year for my services. 



John Mclnuis, a witness called on behalf of the United States, pp. 

 192 and 195, says: 



Q. How many barrels of bait do you take each time? A. Sometimes fifty barrels, 

 and sometimes forty. Some vessels take sixty barrels. 



Q. Do you pay so much a barrel, or employ a man and pay him so much in the 

 lump? A. We will employ a man that has a seine, and he will go catching herring 

 for so much; it may be $30, $40, or $30 for all we want. If we want 40 barrels, we 

 will give, say $40 ; if they are scarce, perhaps more. He will take a seine, and perhaps 

 be two or three days looking after them. 



Q. You say, "I will give you $30 or $40 (as the case may be) to go and catch me si 

 many barrels?" A. Yes; that is the way it is done, and then sometimes we give $1 

 for ice. 



Q. Do you give any assistance in catching them ? A. Sometimes we flo. 



Q. You were asked as to the mode of getting bait, whether you employed those men 

 that went for herring. Do you pay them wages, or pay them after the fish are 

 caught ? A. We employ them before they go. 



Q. But you don't pay them wages ? A. Yes, we have to pay them. f he goes and 

 loses two or three days we have to pay him. 



Q. You don't pay them whether they catch or not ? A. Yes; sometimes if I employ 

 a man to go and catch them, if he loses three or four days sometimes I pay him. 



Philip Pine, planter, residing at Burin Bay, Newfoundland, says, p. 

 61, British Affidavits : 



I am acquainted with the fisheries of Newfoundland by following the same and sup- 

 plying therefor since I was seventeen years of age. 



I have observed a great number of United States fishing vessels in this 

 hood, there being as many as forty sail here at one time. These vessels came I 

 bait and for ice. 



