AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 1767 



This witness also stated that be was not aware whether any of theae 

 vessels had fishing licenses from the Canadian Government. 



Q. Is the privilege of using the inshore fishery of any use to you as fishermen f A.. No ; 

 personally, I say no. 



Q. Do you know that practically yourself? A. That is my opinion. 



Q. You never fished inshore? A. No. 



Q. Therefore you are not able to say so from your own knowledge T A. I fished off 

 shore for the very reason that I thought I would do better there. I had a perfect right to 

 come inshore. 



Q. You lost money, you say? A. Yes. 



Q. Did you ever try inshore fishing ? A. No. 



Q. But you say the privilege of inshore is of no value? A. That is my opinion. 



Q. For what reason ? A. I gave you my reasons. It would keep the vessels out of the 

 harbors, and they would get more mackerel. 



Q. What else ? A. Then we would not have so many draughts. They lay in the harbors 

 too long, and go into harbors when it comes night. 



Q. Is it not the practice for the fishermen to run into the shore and drift off, and thn 

 rnn in again ? A. It is not always you can drift off shore. 



Q. Is the privilege of going inshore an advantage to you ? A. If the mackerel were in- 

 shore, it would certainly be an advantage ; if they were not inshore, it would not be an ad- 

 vantage. 



Q. You never tried whether the inshore was not better that the outshore fishing ; why 

 did you not try it? A. Because I thought I could do better outside. 



Q. Year after year you lost money. As a business man, why did you not try fishing in- 

 shore like other fishermen who have made money ? A. I don't know where they are ; they 

 are very much scattered. 



Q. Why did you not try ? A. Because I thought I could do better off shore. 



Q. Do you know of any vessel which fished within three miles of the shore T A. Not 

 personally. 



Q. Why do you say not personally ? A. Because I do not know any one. I never saw 

 them in there fishing. 



Q. Did you hear of any vessel which fished inshore ? A. I could not tell what I hare 

 heard. 



Q. Have you heard of vessels fishing inshore ? A. I could not answer that. 



Q. Did you ever make any inquiries ? A. No; I was not interested. 



Q. You fished off shore, lost money, and never tried to fish inshore, and never made any 

 inquiries as to whether there was good fishing there or not ? A. Yes. 



This is from the record of the evidence of Charles H. Brier, of Bel- 

 fast, Me., called on behalf of the Government of the United States : 



By Mr. Doutre : 



Q. Can you find out easily whether you are three miles or four miles or five miles off T 

 A. I don't, know how we can. 



Q. Suppose you were about five or four miles, would you call it off shore or inshore T A. 

 I would call it inshore. 



Q. Then what leads you to say you caught about half of your trip inshore and half out ? 

 A. Because we did, I suppose. We had a license to fish inshore and we did. 



Q. You were not afraid of going in there ? So long us you found fish you rishe.l there f- 

 A. Yes. 



Q. Well, you had no reason whatever, had you, to take a note of the quantity takfn in- 

 shore or outshore ; what reminds you now of the fact 1 A. I don't know anything ton- 

 mind me, only that we fished about half the time off shore and caught about as many tub 

 off shore as in. 



Permit to refer to one locality to show how completely our learned 

 brethren on the other side have ignored our evidence. I select this 

 instance because the absence of contradiction is, perhaps, unusually 

 striking. Grand Manan, on the west side of the Bay of Fundy, I have 

 intimated, has received the especial attention of United States counsel, 

 and many witnesses were called to contradict the very strong case uiade 

 out by Mr. Thomson there. 



Let me call your attention to the other side of that bay, and 

 attention bestowed to that part of the Province of Nova Scotia by my 

 learned friend, Mr. Weatherbe. If you look at the map you 

 St. Mary's Bay on the southwesterumost corner of N<va Scotia, c 

 the eastern shore of the mouth of the Bay of Fuudy. From Cape Split, 



