1912 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 







Q. Do you mean in boats ? A. No, in vessels. I might have gone 

 there if 1 had seen vessels in there. 



Q. Were American vessels there? A. Plenty of English vessels 

 were there. 



Q. If you saw a vessel catching fish inshore you would follow in ? 

 A. I did not always follow in, but 1 have done such a thing. 



Q. As a rule, did you fish much inshore ? A. Very little indeed. 



Q. I suppose you have fished along Priuce Edward Island ? A. I 

 have fished there, but not very much. I kuo^ nothing about the in- 

 shore fishery of the island. 



Q. Take the north side of the island, from North Cape to East Point, 

 do you say the inshore fisheries are comparatively valuless as compared 

 with the outside fisheries ? A. 1 say they used to be when I went mack- 

 erel fishing. 



Q. For 15 years you found it so? A. I found it so right along, year 

 after year. I never fished in there. 



Q. Do you say the fish were not there? A. I don't know anything 

 about the fish when I was not there. I made a point to run from East 

 Cape to North Cape ; I never fished inshore of the island. 



Q. Shall I be right in stating to the Commission that, you have no 

 practical knowledge of the inshore fishery of Prince Edward Island? 

 A. I have had more this year than ever before. 



Q. Will you undertake to say that during the 15 years you were fish- 

 ing in the Gulf that is to say, from 1854 to 1869 the inshore fisheries 

 of Prince Edward Island, from North Cape to East Cape, were nothing 

 as compared with the outside fisheries? A. I don't mean to say any- 

 thing of the kind. 



Q. What did you mean to say about the inshore fishery I A. I mean 

 to say we used to fish off East Point in the fall of the year, and off shore 

 in the summer time always. We fished also off North Cape; but we 

 did not fish within three miles of the shore. 



Q. You never went inside of the three-mile limit? A. I have said I 

 caught one-eighth part inside of the limits. 



Q. Did you fish during those 15 years, during 12 years of which the 

 Reciprocity Treaty was in force, enough inside of the three-mile limit 

 at Prince Edward Island to be able to tell the Commission whether the 

 inshore fishery is worth anything as compared with that outside? A. 

 It was not worth more than the outside fishery, from my experience. 



Q. Flow do you know that, if you did not go in and try ? A. We had 

 captains go down to the island, take vessels and go and fish where they 

 pleased, and we beat them when they fished inshore and we fished out- 

 side. Captain Jacks, of Newburyport, had an island vessel. 



Q. You swear that during that time, when you were fishing outside, 

 other captains went in and fished within the three miles along the 

 bight of the island, and you beat them all ? A. They went and fished; 

 I cannot sav where. 



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about it? A. I tell you I fished around East Point and around North 

 Cape. 



Q. Will you undertake to say that you have any personal knowledge 

 of the fisheries between North and East Capes in tlie bight of the island 

 within three miles of the shore? A. I do not think that I have j I have 

 not, within three miles of the shore. 



Q. So during the whole of these 15 years you carefully avoided going 



