AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 1913 



within this limit; and during that time you say you lost money ? A. 

 No. 



Q. Did you make money ? A. I did very well. 



Q. You did very well ? A. Yes. 



Q. And so well that you did not think it necessary to go inside the 

 limit. Did you ever fish along the shore of Cape Breton T A. Yea. 



Q. Did you always keep three miles off the shore T A. No. 



Q. You did fish within the three-mile limit? A. I did sometime* 



Q. As a rule, did you keep three miles off shore, or fish iiiMiln that 

 limit? A. Of course, we kept outside, when we could catch (tali out 

 there. 



Q. Did you catch fish of'tener inside than outside of the three-mile 

 limit? A. We caught them outside a great deal oftener than inside, 

 for the very reason, I suppose, that the fish were there. If the ti.su had 

 been inside, we would probably have caught them in there. 



Q. Did you state, in answer to Mr. Trescot, that during these 1.1 

 years you lost money by fishing in the bay f A. No, I do not think so. 



Q. Did you not state that since that time you have done belter by 

 carrying on the American fishery than you did during the whole of 

 these 15 years ? A. Yes, I did. 



Q. Then you did not lose money in either case ? A. I lost money one 

 way, if you had a mind to reckon it in that light. I just got about insur- 

 ance, and wear and tear of the vessel, and pay for the employment of 

 the vessel during three or four months, when we could not do anything 

 else. 



Q. In point of fact, you made no money ? A. Reckoning it that way, 

 we did not. 



Q. You laid up no money ; you only paid for wear and tear! A. We 

 paid for insurance and interest on the money ; and that is every cent 

 which we got out of it ; and I could show the books to prove it. 



Q. And during the last eight years you have been fishing on the 

 American coast ? A. During the last six years, throwing out the two 

 last years, when I did not make much money, fish being very low in 

 price, we have done first rate there. 



Q. On the American coast ? A. Yes. 1 averaged over $2,<XK) a year 



Q. For six years? A. Yes previous to the last two years. 



Q. Were these six exceptional years, or were they a fair specimen of 

 the fishing on the American coast? A. Yes; that is, since I followed it. 



Q. You are a Newburyport man? A. Yes. 



Q. I presume that you bad as much knowledge of the 

 your own doors, by reputation and hearsay, as you did of the (iulf of 

 Lawrence fisheries? before you started to fish in the gulf f- 

 fish in the Bay of St. Lawrence altogether. 



Q. When you had good fisheries at your own doors, why did you si 

 off to the gulf fisheries? A. Because we did not know how t 

 them, and did not understand making seines so as to catdi them. 



Q. So you went to the gulf fisheries ? A. The fl.sh in the gul 

 bite hooks, and our fish would not do so. The latter are too i 

 bite hooks ; we had to make nets to catch them. 



Q. Your fish were too shrewd to take the hook ; it was only t 

 fortunate British fish that could be so gulled ?-A. The 1 

 bite the hook. 



Q. And that was what drove you to the gulf fishery ! 

 we understood the making of seines to catch the I 

 did much better on our own coast. 



Q. Did I understand you to say that the catch off yo 



