AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 1915 



I never went in the gulf in this one until the present year. I always 

 went there in the S. C. Noyes. She is ten years old. I atterwunls bad 

 this one, which I have now, built. 



Q. These were the vessels which you used during the eight years 

 mentioned ? A. Yes. 



Q. Which one did you command? A. I went for two years in this 

 one, when new ; and in these two years I made $(>,(MM) clear money on 

 our own coast. I then never went nigh your waters. 



Q. When speaking of fishing on your own const, you mean that yon 

 did so 8 or 10 miles from the shore? A. I do not know as it was that 

 distance, but I caught three-quarters of the mackerel offshore. 



Q. At least three quarters? A. 1 should think I caught at least three- 

 quarters of the fish outside of ten miles from the shore during that 

 time. 



Q. Who are the other owners of the vessels with you! A. I could not 

 tell till I see the papers. There are several owners. 



Q. Do I understand you to say that you cannot tell the names of the 

 joint owners of the vessel that they number several people, and that 

 you cannot remember their names? A. I cannot remember them 

 perhaps not the whole of them. There are Ilayden, Brown S. Noyes, 

 another Noyes, and Dr. Peevil, &c. Perhaps I cannot remember them 

 all. 



Q. Where do these gentlemen live ? A. At West Newport and New- 

 bury port. 



Q. They are all alive? A. Yes. 



Q. And all of them are acquainted with the facts which you state, 

 and they are all alive ? A. Yes. 



Q. They know all about it? A. They got the money, and they know 

 all about the catch as well as I do; and they can show you the books 

 for any time during the last 15 years. 



Q. Who is the agent? A. Edward Burwell, of Newburyport. We 

 have got it all in black and white. I dou't want you to take my word 

 for it, not a bit. 



Q. And he is quite ready to make the same statement ?- -A. He will 

 show you the figures which will make the same statement. 



Q. I think you said there were about G7 vessels in the bay in an 

 answer to Mr. Trescot. What did you say ? A. I said that there were 

 600 or 700 vessels there, as well as I could judge, about 15 years ugo. 



Q. In wliat year was this? A. I could not pretend to tell the year. 



Q. Was it more than eight years ago? A. O, yes; it was 10, 111, or 

 13 years ago. 



Q. And the owners of all these vessels were still under a delii 

 garding the fisheries on the American coast!- -A. No. 1 do .s.iy 

 the 

 first- 



last two or three years you 



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miles out from your coast? A. They did not think that they could pair 

 fish in deep water with seines. They had not tried it, so they 

 know about it; but as soon as this was once tried of course i 



cess. 



f \ 

 Q. Do they now catch the fish in these waters with purs 



Yes 



Q. What do they catch in these nets besides mackerel ' 

 not get much of anything. 



