AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 1923 



and caught mackerel there. I have told you that almost a thousand 

 times. 



Q. And your fishery is a deep.sea fishery ? A. ( 'ertainly it i*. -Every- 

 body has got the same privilege there that we have. 



Q. Do you do anything in cod-fishing * A. No; I am no cod fisher- 

 man at all. 



Q. And you do not know anything about that fishery ? A. No. I 

 went as far as Labrador once, but that is all I can tell you about cod- 

 fishing. One season at it was enough for me. 



Q. And you do not knowanything.aboiit the bait required for cod T 

 A. No. I am no cod fisher. I am a mackerel catcher in every Hen.se of 

 the word. I have caught mackerel in all kinds of ways. 



Q. You have heard that Prince Edward Island is a first-rate ti. stung 

 place? A. I have heard that it is a regular rat-hole. A good many of 

 our men have lost their lives there, and they are and have been a little 

 shy of it. 



Q. How many Americans, since what is called the great Yankee gale 

 in 1851, have lost their lives there? A. They have taken very tine cure 

 not to get caught there. 



Q. That is the only way you account for the fact, as you think that 

 after the gale of 1851 no American fishermen have ever ventured in 

 reach of Prince Edward Island? A. They have taken fine care to give 

 it a clear berth. ' 



Q. Are you aware of the fact that there are extensive harbors of 

 refuge on the northern side of the island, provided for American fisher- 

 men at the expense of the Dominion Government! A. No, I am not. 



Q. Are you aware that expensive lights are kept up along the shore 

 for the benefit of fishermen ? A. I am aware that there are a good many 

 of them now; but they were dreadful few when I went there years ago, 

 fhough we used to have to pay light-money. 



Q. This was the case years ago? A. They were then dreadful few. 



Q. And since eight years ago they have been put upf A. There was 

 one on East Point and one at North Cape, when 1 went there belore. 



Q. Do you mean to say that there were none there in 1870 or 18891 

 A. I say they had then built one at East Point and one at North Cape. 



Q. But a great number of the light houses have been built since?- -A. 

 Yes; the coast is very well lighted now. 



Q. This has been done since the Washington Treaty was negotiated, 

 for the benefit of Americans if they come there! A. 

 much that it has been done for our benefit. 



Q. Are they of any benefit to you if you go there ? -A. 

 are of just as much' benefit to us as to anybody else, but you li 

 a very 'large trade, and large vessels go through by there. 



Q. Is there not a large harbor at Souris ! A. It is of no eai 

 to our fishermen ; if eight or ten vessels were there they v 

 it full, and I would not then like to have my vessel bob 

 water with a southeasterly wind for anything. 



Q. You were in there ? A. I just came from there the da 



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Q. And yon will swear that eight or ten vessels will fill tin- v 

 bor?-A. I should think that 10 vessels would be as maio 

 bor there safely in a gale of wind and have a decent I 



Q. How many were in when yon were there !- 

 but not over ten of them lay inside of the breakwater. 



that this number was inside of it. 



