1924 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. All the rest were out in the open sea ? A. They were outside of 

 the breakwater, anchored in the cove. 



Q. That is the harbor ? A. It is a fair harbor except during a south- 

 easterly wind. 



Q. Would not that breakwater protect 25 vessels lying in the ordi- 

 nary harbor ? A. No. I could not stop there under such circum- 

 stances; I would then get right under way and go right out of the 

 place. 



Q. Will you swear that there have not been as many as 50 American 

 vessels in that harbor at one time protected by the breakwater ! A. I 

 should like to see them get in there. 



Q. Will you swear that it was not so, or that it could not be so ! Can 

 you swear that 100 vessels could not harbor there ? A. It don't look to 

 ine as if they could put 5 vessels in there. 



Q. And you undertake to state that 100 vessels could not be put there, 

 and that it looks as if 5 could not be put there ? A. It looks very small. 

 I think that 8 or 10 vessels are as many as ought to be there to have a 

 decent kind of a berth. 



Q. You admit that 10 vessels could get a decent berth there ! A. I 

 think that they could. 



Q. If this is so, what made you say that it looked as if 5 could not be 

 put there and in the next breath that ten vessels could have a decent 

 berth there ? A. I say I do not know but what they could. I give it 

 as a rough guess. 



Q. You told the Commissioners on your oath that this harbor did not 

 look as if it would protect five vessels, and in the next* breath you tell 

 them that ten could be harbored there ? A. It don't look as if it would 

 protect one vessel. 



Q. Not one vessel ? A. No ; it does not. I would not dare risk my 

 vessel behind it. 



Q. Do you know anything about the fleet which, for the last 15 years, 

 or during the Reciprocity Treaty, found shelter in Malpeque and Souris 

 Ilarbors ? A. No ; I was never in Malpeque Harbor more than two or 

 three times in my life during that period. 



By Mr. Trescott : 



Q. With regard to the value of the gulf fisheries, do you say that if 

 you had your choice, as far as a decision is concerned, you would con- 

 sider yourself much better oft' with a duty laid on imported fish, and be 

 entirely excluded from fishing on the Canadian coast within the three- 

 mile limit; and as far as you know in stating this you represent the 

 general opinion of American fishermen ? A. I never thought anything 

 different ; I always advocated that all through ; I am strongly in favor 

 of it. 



Q. With regard to the unwillingness of the fishermen to go and the 

 difficulty of getting to George's Bank, is it the fact that a large propor- 

 tion of thi'Stt crews was composed of Canadians ? A. Well, these people 

 had a certain dread of that Bank. 



Q. They were prejudiced against it, and preferred to go to their own 

 fishing grounds .' A. Yes ; they were accustomed to come here, and 

 they would not go there. 



Q. With regard to the difficulty of telling whether you are three or 

 six miles from the shore, I understand you to mean that it was uncer- 

 tain where you were, and that you were unwilling to run the risk of 

 being taksn by a cutter when you were really outside of the limit, or when 

 you were inside of it, owing to being deceived as to your distance from 



