1932 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Yon found that others did so ? A. Yes. 



Q. And you did not see why you should not do the same ? A. I was 

 not scared of being taken, and finally we could not get fish enough to 

 pay for the license. 



Q. And, besides, you found that others were not paying for licenses? 

 A. Yes. 



Q. And you thought that you could run the risk as well as they ? 

 A. I knew that I was not going to run any risk ; I was not going to 

 fish so as to run any risk. 



Q. Why did you take out licenses previously ? A. The charge was 

 50 cents a ton then, and I did not want to be bothered, if I anchored 

 around the land. If I did so I did not wish to be driven out. 



Q. If I understand you aright, you transshipped the last year, when 

 you had no license! A. I never transshipped when I had no license. 



Q. What did you do with your cargo, then ? A. I shipped a trip the 

 first year I was master of a vessel, but no licenses were issued that 

 year. 



Q. What did you do with your cargoes afterwards ? A. I carried 

 them home. 



Q. Have you transshipped since the Washington Treaty has been in 

 force? A. Yes. 



Q. Where were you fishing last year ? A. On the Grand Banks. 



Q. And the year before ? A. On the Grand Banks. 



Q. And where have you been fishing this year! A. On the Grand 

 Banks. 



Q. What do you fish for? A. Cod. 



Q. You now fish for cod altogether? A. Yes. 



Q. When did you come into this port ! A. About 12 o'clock to-day. 



Q. Did you come as a witness, to give testimony ? A. Xo. 



Q. You just happened to come in ? A. Yes. 



Q. And you did not know anything about giving testimony here? 

 A. Xo. 



Q. Did you come with the American fleet? A. They were in here 

 when I came in. 



Q. You came alone? A. Yes. 



Q. Do you know how many American vessels have come down here 

 this year? A. No. 1 have been away from home for four months, and 

 I do not know anything about what has been going on at home during 

 that time. 



Q. When did you last fish for mackerel 1 A. In 1873. 



Q. And did you fish during that year in the bay? A. Yes. 



Q. Did you fish that year lor mackerel in any other place besides the 

 bay ? A. Yes, I went out south that year on our shore. 



Q. You went south, and then came to the bay? A. Yes. 



(>. That is the course usually taken by American mackerel fishers? 

 A. Yes. 



Q. The usual course for them, according to the evidence given, is to 

 commence fishing out south, and to follow the mackerel when the latter 

 come into the bay ? A. Yes, that is the way we did that year, but during 

 the last three or four years there have been no mackerel in the bay. 



Q. How do you know that? A. The vessels have found mackerel 

 enough on our coast. 



Q. You are now speaking from hearsay? A. Yes. 



Q. You are saying what you have heard? A. Yes. 



Q. But I am referring to the years when you fished for mackerel; 



