1934 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Is it difficult to tell when you are three miles from land or not ! 

 A. Yes. Some days laud will look uigher than on other days. 



Q. It is very difficult to tell whether you are 3 miles from shore or 

 not ? A. Yes. 



Q. And sometimes when you are only half a mile from the land, will 

 you imagme that you are 3 miles off shore ? A. No ; but if you are one 

 and a half miles off you will think that you are 3 miles off land ; at 

 another time you will be 5 miles off and think that you are only 3 

 miles off shore. 



Q. How do you find out when you are nearly 5 miles from the land ? 

 A. We tell by the distance ; we take the chart and draw a line from one 

 headland to another. 



Q. You can always find out where you are by taking the proper means 

 for ascertaining it ? A. Yes. 



Q. Then I suppose that when you fished without a license you kept 

 your chart constantly in your hand ? A. Well 



Q. Did you do so or not ? A. We did not. 



Q. Did you keep your chart constantly in your hand to ascertain where 

 you were ? A. No. 



Q. Y 7 ou took no trouble at such times to find out where you were ? A. 

 I fished around the Magdalen Islands and Margaree. 



Q. Where did you catch the fish at Margaree ? A. Off shore. 



Q. Do the mackerel not feed and breed at Margaree f A. The fish 

 strike along the shore and follow the shore down. 



Q. Do the fish not feed and breed on the shore altogether ? A. No. 



Q. Do I understand you to swear that they do not? A. I do not 

 think that they do. 



Q. Will you undertake to say that they do not breed and feed along 

 the shore of this coast ? A. Do you mean close to the shore of Marga- 

 ree ? 



Q. Y"es, and Prince Edward Island. A. I never fished close to the 

 shore of Prince Edward Island. 



Q. Did you ever see vessels fishing there ? A. I have seen them fish- 

 ing up and down the shore. 



Q. We have a large mass of evidence here on the subject, and I want 

 to know whether you contradict it or not. It is stated that large num- 

 bers and fleets of vessels fish within three miles of that shore from day 

 to day ? A. I never fished there. 



Q. Did you fish within a mile or half a mile of the coast? A. I never 

 did ; I caught a few mackerel near the shore, but never many. 



Q. Did these Nova Scotians who were with you in the Pathfinder 

 catch any mackerel inside of three miles from the shore? A. We might 

 have got 30 or 40 barrels in shore. 



Q. Will you undertake to say that you did not catch the most of what 

 you got within three miles of the shore? A. Yes. 



Q. You are positive on that point? A. Y/es: as to the time I was in 

 her. 



Q. How did you know that you were not within three miles of the 

 shore? A. I could tell by the land. 



Q. Did you catch them'five miles off shore? A. No, I do not think so. 



Q. You said that you caught a great many fish within 5 and 10 miles 

 of the coast ? A. Yes; and 15 and 16 miles from it. 



Q. Did you catch one-half of the fish five miles from the coast! A. 



Q. You will swear that? A. Yes; I have caught a whole trip during 

 different seasons about the Magdalen Islands. 



