1936 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Could you give any idea in this relation ? A. No. 



Q. You can give no idea whatever as to the number of times you have 

 tried for mackerel within three miles of the island? A. No. 



Q. Can you give us any sort of an idea as to how many times you 

 tried for them at Margaree within three miles of the coast ? A. I have 

 never been there many times. 



Q. How many times have you been there f A. Probably half a dozen 

 times for mackerel. 



Q. In your life ? A. That is, since I have been, master of a vessel. 



Q. You now refer to the Cape Breton coast? A. Yes. 



Q. Did you ever try for mackerel off any other part of the coast of 

 Cape Breton ? A. Yes ; down at Cheticamp. 



Q. How often did you try for them there? A. I recollect trying 

 once, on coming across from the Magdalen Islands. 



Q. You only recollect of doing so once ? A. Yes. 



Q. You can only give evidence as to having done so once? A. Yes. 



Q. Will you name any other place on the coast where you have so 

 tried ? A. I have told you of all the places. 



Q. Cannot you name any other place ? A. I cannot think of any 

 more now. 



Q. Can you give me any sort of an idea as to how many fish you 

 caught within five miles of the coast? A. No; I could not. 



Q. You can give no sort of idea whatever as to such proportion ? A. 

 No. 



Q. Can you give me any idea as to what you so caught more or 

 less ? A. The most of the mackerel I ever caught have been taken off 

 the Magdalen Islands, and broad oif the Pigeon Hills. These are my 

 fishing-grounds. 



Q. You only went to these places? A. I would go there, and having 

 tried for fish would leave again. 



Q. How many mackerel, more or less, did you catch within five miles 

 of the coast? A. I could not tell. 



Q. You can give no sort of an idea in this relation ? A. No. 



Q. And no idea, whether the proportion be greater or less? A. No. 



Q. And you say that it is very difficult sometimes to tell when you 

 are five or two miles oft' shore ? A. I say it is difficult to tell whether 

 you are five or three miles off shore. 



Q. During the time when you had no license you never on any occa- 

 sion undertook to ascertain by the chart where you were whether you 

 were three miles from the shore or not? A. Yes; we did do so as well 

 as we could while we were sailing along. 



Q. But you never undertook to ascertain whether you were within 

 three miles of the shore or not ? A. No. 



Q. And you never heard of any other American ve3sel making such 

 an attempt? A. No. 



(,>. You never heard of an American trying to do so when outside or 

 inside of tin- three-mile limit? A. No. 



Q. And I suppose you will agree to this, that when you are following 

 a school of mackerel you were much less likely to find out where you 

 were ? A. Yes ; that is so. 



Q. And when you were inside of the three-mile limit? A. I never 

 had a cutter order me oft" shore in uiy life. 



Q. I suppose that they would do you the common civility to give you 

 warning, and if you then went off nothing further would be said about 

 it* A. If yon went inside the limit they would take yon. 



Q. I always understood that they would not seize Vessels if they did 



