AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 1937 



not know where they were ? A. If they caught you fishing inside. thv 

 would take you. 



Q. You think so ? A. Yes. ^ 



Q. Why ? A. Every vessel caught fishing inshore they have taken, 

 have they not ? 



Q. If they have taken vessels fishing inshore, why <lo yon KUV that? 

 A. Vessels have been taken, and J supposed that they were taken for 

 that reason. 



Q. You have simply heard of it ? A. Yes. 



Q. And you never saw any vessels taken ? A. No. 



Q. Did you ever see a cutter ? A. Yes. 



Q. What was she doing f A. I suppose she was keeping American 

 fishermen from fishing inshore. 



Q. Within what distance from the shore ? A. Three miles. 



Q. I thought you said that there was no fish in there f A. 1 Kti|>ix>*e 

 fish are to be found in there. That is what the vessels go there tor. 



Q. You do not mean to say that fleets of vessels go in to catch fish 

 where there are no fish ? A. Some go in, I suppose, when the mackerel 

 are there. 



Q. Then the mackerel do go inshore sometimes? A. I think that is 

 likely the case. 



Q. Did you ever hear of their being caught there? A. Yes. 



Q. Did you ever hear of a load of mackerel being caught inshore ? 

 A. ;N T o. 



Q. Did you hear that the mackerel were very largely found near the 

 shore this year? A. I have heard nothing about them this year. 



Q. Did you hear of other vessels catching fish inshore 7 A. No. 



Q. You do not know where other vessels obtained their fish ? A. No. 

 I always looked out for myself. 



, Q. And you never heard the men on other vessels say where they 

 caught their fish ? A. O, yes, very often. 



Q. Why do you say that you always looked out for yourself? A. I 

 never bothered any man as to where he gets his fish as long as I can get 

 them. 



Q. When you had no license did you catch a single fish inside the 

 three-mile limit? A. I think it is likely that I have done HO. 



Q. How many do you think that you have caught within the three- 

 mile limit ? A. I do not know ; 1 have so caught a few. 



Q. In which vessel were you then ? A. I could not tell you. 

 it is likely that I have so caught a few in every vessel in which I have 

 been. 



Q. Was this the case when you had no license ?--A. I am Irving to 

 think whether I had a license then or not. 



Q. You said you so caught some fish when you had no license; how 

 did you know that you caught fish inside the three-mile limit when yoa 

 had 'no license? A. I think it likely that I so got a few. 

 . Q. Do you remember saying a little while ago that you never rai 

 risk when you had no license t A. Certainly. I told you that I di< 

 calculate that I ran any risk. I think it is likely that I caught j 

 within the three-mile limit. 



Q. You do not know whether this was the case or not ? 

 but I think it is likely that I did. 



Q. And why is that likely ? A. A man does not measure I 



Q. But a man who is liable to have his vessel confiscated mew 



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his distance ? A. O, yes. 

 Q. And unless he can get a large haul of mackerel by d 



