1938 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



not willing to ran that risk ? A. He is willing to run the risk if he can 



catch fish by doing so. 



r . Q. And you did run that risk? A. I think it is likely I did. 



Q. Then you were mistaken when you said you ran no risk when you 

 had no license? A. I think so. 



Q. Did you take licenses out during the years you fished in the bay ! 

 A. 1 took out a license at first. What was the price the second year! 

 Do you recollect; was it SI a ton ! 



Q. I think so. A. Then I think that I took out a license the second 

 year ; but when the price rose to $2 and $2.50 a ton I would not take 

 out one. 



Q. In point of fact you thought that you did not run a great deal of 

 risk, as you could see a cutter when she was a long distance off ? A. No. 

 The cutters never bothered ine any. I was not a bit scared of them. 



Q. You say that you first transshipped a cargo during the Reciprocity 

 Treaty ? A. I shipped one trip the first year I was master of a vessel. 

 J think that we made three trips that year. 



Q. And then you have transshipped under the provisions of the 

 Washington Treaty 1 A. Yes. 



Q. Did you transship afterward ? A. No, I never shipped cargoes 

 save twice. 



Q. And you did so under the Reciprocity and Washington Treaty ! 

 A. Yes. 



Q. And you transshipped the last year you were in the bay? A. No; 

 but the year before that, and the year before that. 



Q. What is the ordinary rate of freight per barrel for transshipping f 

 A. I think that it cost somewhere about $1.50 between the payment 

 of freight and expenses. 



Q. What is the charge for freight? A. I think that they paid $1 a 

 barrel. 



Q. From the Gut of Canso to Boston ? A. Yes. 



Q. Will you swear that this was the case! A. No, but I think it 

 was. 



Q. In what steamer did you ship the fish ? A. I could not say. 



Q. Who was your agent there? A. John Maguire. 



Q. John Maguire is a very reliable man, is he not ? A. Yes. 



Q. He is very truthful and very reliable ? A. I think that he is. I 

 think that we paid $1 a barrel, but I would not be certain. I may for- 

 get the exact amount. 



Q. We had Mr. Maguire here the other day would you be surprised 

 to find that the price paid was 30 cents or 40 cents a barrel ? A. Yes, 

 but I think it was more than that. 



Q. But you are not sure ? A. No; I told you so. 



Q. If it was 40 cents a barrel, then the expense you spoke of would 

 be inuc.h different! A. Yes, it would be somewhere near 90 cents. 



Q. What other expenses have you to meet ? A. There is the packing 

 home and the labor to be paid for. 



Q. But you have to do all that if you take the fish home? A. Then, 

 However, we are not charged for it. 



Q. You do it yourselves ? A. Yes. 



Q. But you cannot fish while you are attending to these matters ? 

 A. No. 



Q. The payment of the freight is the main thing at any rate? A. Yes, 

 and the expenses home. 

 Q. To that expeu.se you would be put in any case if you took the fish 



