1940 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



went was lost, and then I was employed by the firm of Mansfield, who 

 wanted his vessels to go cod-fishing ; and so I went. 



Q. You are now, and have been since 1874, in one of Mansfield's ves- 

 sels ? A. I was fishing there during 1875 and 1876. I commenced in 

 the fall of 1874. 



Q. Did you go the Banks to fish in 1874? A. No. 



Q. During the last fifteen years you have gone to Fortune Bay during 

 the winter for herring ? A. Yes; but not all the time as master. 



Q. You went there the first year you were in the Fashion ? A. I was 

 never there in the Fashion. 1 was fishing for mackerel in her, but I did 

 not go to .Newfoundland. She is the first vessel of which I ever was 

 master. 



Q. During what months in the winter do yon go to Fortune Bay for 

 herring ? A. We leave home for that place about the 25th of Novem- 

 ber, or toward the last of the month. . 



Q. And how long do you remain here ? A. We generally leave there 

 about the middle of January. 



Q. And during the time you are there you get your winter herring, as 

 you call them ! A. Yes. 



Q. How much a barrel do you pay for them ? A. From $1 to $2. 



Q. What did you pay a barrel for them last winter ? A. $2. 



Q. And what did you pay the previous winter ? A. About $1.50. 



Q. And the winter previous to that ? A. Six shillings, or $1.20. 



Q. And the winter still previous ? A. About six shillings. 



Q. What measure do you use the American or the Newfoundland ? 

 A. Well, when herring are scarce, we take what the people give us. 



Q. Is not your measure smaller than theirs? A. No; I think that 

 ours is a little bigger than theirs. 



Q. If the people of Fortune Bay swore that the value you gave them 

 for the herring was only about 75 cents a barrel, would you be pre- 

 pared to come here and swear directly the contrary ? A. Yes, I should. 



Q. Against all the people of Fortune Bay ? A. Yes. 



Q. What was the size of the vessel in which you generally went to get 

 your winter herring? A. Well, 1 have been there in vessels varying 

 from 108 tons to C6 tons ; the former was the biggest and the latter the 

 smallest. 



Q. What has been the size of the vessel in which you have gone there 

 during the last few years? A. During the last two winters I went there 

 in my present vessel, which is of 73 tons ; and the winter previous I 

 went there in a vessel of 90 tons. 



Q. What quantity of herring did you take in this vessel of 73 tons ! 

 A. Five hundred barrels of frozen herring; they take up the room each 

 of about two barrels of salt herring. 



Q. Is that the largest quantity of herring that you have ever taken 

 from there ? A. No; I have taken about 800 barrels. 



Q. That was when you were in a vessel of 108 tons? A. Yes. 



Q. But you usually take about 500 barrels? A. Yes. 



Q. How do you make out that you pay out $1,000 from the time you 

 go down there.' A. I said that I*paid out $1,000 last winter. 



Q. 1 understood you to say that you generally left $1,000 every win- 

 ter that you went down there ; in this was I mistaken ? A. Yes ; I said 

 I did so last winter. 



Q. Then you do not leave $1,000 there every year that you go down 

 to Newfoundland ?--A. Not quite, but last winter I did; that is what I 

 left for herring, besides light-dues, customs-fees, &c. 



