AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 1947 



and my family, we are poor folks and would not be able to go into a 

 large branch of the fishing business. It puts us in a good deal toiler 

 position. 



Q. Has the general condition of your fishermen become letter or 

 worse since the duty was taken off ! A. I think they are better off. ' I 

 think they would consider themselves in a better condition. 



Q. Which do yon think is more for the interest of your people, to 

 allow the Americans to fish alongside of them and to have the Ameri- 

 can market free of duty, or to exclude the Americans from British 

 waters aiid be subjected to duty in the American markets 'A. I do 

 not know how I could answer that. Probably it would not be an aiinwer 

 suitable to the question, what I would say. Would you ask the quea- 

 tion again ? 



Question repeated. A. I should say it is better not to pay the dutv. 

 It is better as it is. 



Q. Then you prefer the condition of things under the Treaty of Wash- 

 ington ? A. Yes. 



Q. Now, suppose that American vessels were not allowed to come to 

 your people to buy in their harbors frozen herring, how would you be 

 able to dispose of them ? What could you do with them there ! A. 

 As I have said before, I do not know what they could do with them. 

 If we would have to take them to Eastport, we would run the risk of 

 losing them. We could not take them there in our small boats, and 

 would have to pay somebody freight, and by shipping it about, it would 

 be liable to be lost. 



Q. In your part of the country who began using the trawls ; the 

 Americans or the British I A. Well, now, I could not decidedly aay 

 that I would be correct, but the first trawls that were used about Grand 

 Manan, to my knowledge, were used by our own people. I never knew 

 of trawls being used inside of our fishing-grounds until our own people 

 used them. I have spoken against those things, and I never did it m 

 my life. 



Q. Do you find pogies in your waters ? A. We find them somewhat 

 scattered. We could catch them sometimes, but they are scattered, 

 and sometimes we would not see one in a whole season's fishing. 



Q. How many American fishermen have you seen catching fish in 

 your waters this year ? A. This year 1 haven't seen many. This hut 

 week, before I- left I was at Eastport on account of sickness. Before 

 I left I heard that the fish had come in there, and that some had raiijih 

 three quintals to a boat. No vessel had come in so far as I saw except 

 to get bait. 



Q. Codfish you are speaking of? A. Yes. 



Q. Yon smoke herring yourself, don't you ? A. I have all alon 

 the last two years. 31 3* sons do. 



Q. Who takes the herring that you and your SHIS secure f 

 used formerly to send them to Eastport. 



Q. Do you sell any of them now in Canada ? A. I never sen' 

 Canada but once, when Wilson was living at Campobello I 



Q. In the Dominion anywhere, I mean ? A. Well, I have ; 

 I sold a few in St. John occasionally. 



Q. Now, do you think the tish of various kinds taken at < 

 would find a market in the Dominion of Canada, or won 

 supply the market of the Dominion ? A. Well, to the 

 judgment I suppose they could not find a satisfaf t 

 here. 



