AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. They refuse to charter ? A. They have more vessels than ihv 

 know what to do with. The owners don't want to charter. 



Q. I understand that the owners don't want to charter for thpruHflvi*. 

 Don't they want to charter to outsiders f A. No ; because they have 

 vessels enough that they own. 



Q. Don't the owners of vessels wish to charter their vessels to out- 

 siders ? A. They won't charter to outsiders. 



Q. Why? A. Because that is not their business. If you charter a 

 vessel you have to charter her where she was built, a new* vessel. 



Mr. Dana suggests that the witness attaches a different meaning to 

 the word " charter " from that intended by counsel. 

 By Mr. Thomson : 



Q. What do you mean by chartering a vessel ? A. I mean, if you 

 have a vessel and I come and charter her of you and pay you so much a 

 month. 



Q. Then I don't think you and I disagree. You mean that the own- 

 ers do not desire any person to charter a vessel from them ! A. That 

 is what I mean. 



Q. Why ? A. I mean those fish-owners that own vessels. 



Q. They don't desire that any person should come and charter vessel* 

 from them ? A. No. 



Q. Why T A. I don't know. 



Q. Is it because it is more profitable to them to run them them- 

 selves ? A. I suppose they would rather run them themselves than ruu 

 the risk. 



Q. It is a more paying business for them to run their own vessel* 

 than to allow them to be chartered by outsiders ! A. Well, it is not 

 their business to charter. 



Q. Did you not tell me just now that they had more vessels than they 

 'knew what to do with ? A. I said they had enough without chartering 

 them themselves. 



Q. I understood from you that they had too many vessels ; would 

 they not desire to charter them to anybody ? A. Well, I should think 

 some of them had too many. 



Q. Well, say if they have. A. I don't know whether they have 

 many. I say I should think so. 



Q. Who do you think has ? A. I don't think anybody has. 



Q. I thought you said they had ? A. I say, in my own i 

 have. Perhaps they think they have not enough. 



Q. You told me just now you thought there were some I 

 many vessels ? A. That is my own mind. Then 1 might go 

 owner and^ell him, and he would tell me to mind my own 



Q. Tell me who you think has too many. A. I don t 



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Q. Then why did you say so ! Now, in ISiT-that i 

 Mr. Foster examined you about you went in the 1 

 Eliza ? A. Yes, sir. 



Q. That year you got 180 barrels J--A. Yes. 



Q. How do you recollect the number of barrels 

 from one minute to another, but 1 can t recollect eight, t 

 twenty, or thirty years ago. , . N - 



Q. Welfare you sure you cannot recollect thirty years 

 I suppose I might recollect some things, and some 



Q But, as a rule, you would not recollect anything 

 thirty years ago ?-A. Perhaps some things I would, a 

 not. 



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