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dalen Islands, never trying to fish anywhere except at the Magdalen 

 Islands, unless when you hove to once or twice crossing the bay f A. 

 That is what I have stated. 



Q. Why did you not try down on the coast of Prince Edward Island, 

 instead of running home with a partial cargo ? A. Because there were 

 no mackerel there. 



Q. You did not go to try ? A. We saw vessels which did try. We 

 did not want to go there because vessels coming from there to the Mag- 

 dalen Islands said there were no mackerel. 



Q. Can you give the names of the vessels? A. No; I cannot tell you 

 the names. 



Q. Tell me the name of any one of the vessels which gave you that 

 information. A. I cannot tell you. 



Q. Where did the vessels come and give you that information ? A. 

 They came to the Magdalen Islands. 



Q. They told you there were no fish off Prince Edward Island ? A. 

 Certainly. W 7 hen we saw a vessel which came from Prince Edward 

 Island we asked if there were any mackerel there, and they told us 

 whether there were or not. 



Q. Did all the vessels which you spoke with come from Prince Ed- 

 ward Island ! A. I don't mean all. 



Q. Did all which gave you that information ? A. I cannot tell where 

 they had been fishing, because I did not see them fishing. 



Q. Did they tell you where they had been fishing? A. I asked them 

 if there were any mackerel at Prince Edward Island, and they said no. 



Q. Did you not inquire if they had been fishing there ? A. Of course 

 not, because I supposed they had been fishing there if they came from 

 there. 



Q. How did you know they had come from there ? A. Because they 

 said they came from there. 



Q. My question is: Did all the vessels which came there and gave 

 you that information say they had come from Prince Edward Island? 

 A. They did not all come from Prince Edward Island. 



Q. From where else did they come ! A. Some from Margaree, some 

 from North Cape, the West Shore, and all round the bay. They don't 

 all come to one place or stay in one place. 



Q. And there were no mackerel at any of these places ? A. There 

 might have been at times. 



Q. Did they say so? A. When they came to the Magdalen Islands 

 they did not find any elsewhere, or they would not have come. 



Q. Did you ask if there were any mackerel at Prince Edward Island ? 

 A. I asked "Have you got any mackerel over there at the island ? n 

 aud they answered "No." If I saw a vessel come from the nor'ard, 

 I asked if there was any mackerel there, and they said no. If mack- 

 erel had been there I would have gone. 



Q. Why did you not go to Gaspe and Bay Chaleurs and try, instead of 

 going back without a full fare? A. Did I say I did not go there and 

 try? I said we caught our mackerel at Magdalen Islands. 



Q. You stated you tried at no places, except, when going across the 

 bay, you hove to, but you can alter the statement if you wish. A. I 

 am not going to alter the statement. 



Q. What did you mean by putting to me the question, "Did I say I 

 did not go into Bay Chaleurs?'' Did you mean the Commission to 

 understand that you had gone into Bay Chaleurs ? A. I was not in 

 Bay Chaleurs that year. 



