AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 1977 



Q. Can you tell the Commission what was the vessel on which you 

 were when you saw the cutters ? A. I was thinking I was on "the 

 Phosnix. While skipper, I never saw any except a Canadian cutter, and 

 she was up to the uor'ard where we caught our mackerel. 



Q. Did you take out no license the year you saw the cutters ? A. I 

 never took out a license. 



Q. Having no license, did you keep clear of the inshore fishing? A. 

 W T e caught mackerel off Bona venture and Gaspe. 



Q. You said " broad out." A. I mean from 12 to 15 miles off. 



Q. Y'ou did not attempt to go inshore ? A. No, because the Canadian 

 ers would not let us go inshore if we had wanted to do so. 

 In 1867, what vessel did you command ? A. The Martha A. Porter. 



(). Were you in the gulf that year? A, Yes. 



Q. You are sure of that ? A. Yes. 



Q. How many barrels did you take that season ? A. 120 barrels, 



Q. Did you see any of the cutters that season? A. No, I did not; 

 I don't recollect that I did. I don't know that there were cutters that 

 year. I think there were licenses that year. 



Q. In 1865, you commanded the Martha A. Porter and were in the 

 gulf fishing? A. I was in the Martha A. Porter three years. 



Q. Did you state you were iu 1865 fishing in the gulf? A. I think I 

 did. 



Q. Is it correct ? A. I think it is. 



Q. Have you any doubt about it ? A. No. 



Q. Then you swear positively that in 1865 you were in the,gult com- 

 manding the Martha A. Porter? A. Yes, I am positive in 1.SG5. 



Q. How many barrels did you catch that season ? A. 1 think it was 

 120 barrels I stated. 



Q. Was the quantity 120 barrels ? A. I might have said 

 barrels ; I have forgotten. 



Q. State now what is the fact. A. One hundred and seventy barrels 



Q. Why did you think it was 120 barrels ? A. I had kind of forgot- 

 ten, for you have got me mixed. It was 170 barrels. 



Q. Are you sure it was 170 barrels ? A. Yes, I am sure. 



Q. Have you had figures put down on paper by which you are gui 

 ing yourself I A. No. 



Q. Why did you say you had forgotten whether you had stated 

 or 170 barrels ? A. You have been bothering me so. 



Q. In 1866, where were you? A. I was in the Martha A. 1 



Q. Where : in the gulf f A. I was at the George's that 



Q. In 1867, you were in the gulf in the Martha A. Porter 

 1865, 1866, and 1867 I was in the Martha A. Porter. 



Q. In 1866, vou were at the George's f A. I think I 



Q. By saying that you think, do you wish the Commission t. 

 stand you are not quite sure about it, or do you swear 

 fact ? A. I say I was on the George's. 



Q. How maiiv years were you on the Georges 



Q. After being in the bay in 1865, you were at the Ce4>rgrf 

 following years ? A. Yes. .. 



Q. That places vou on the George's in 1S66 and ] 



Q. Are you sure about that ? A. I am pretty sure abt 



Q. Y'ou "are sure about it? A. Yes. 



Q. What made you swear just now to me, and one 

 Foster, that in 1867 you were in the gultf-A. I don t 



Q. If you did, it is all wrong, I suppose. \ou have i 

 about dates or figures ?-A. Why, I give you it as straight as 



