AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



and got 120 or 170 barrels, and the next two years, when commanding 

 the Martha A. Porter, you were on the Georges ! A. Yes. 



Q. Were you more than tw"o years on the Georges Banks in tlu> Mar- 

 tha A. Porter? A. When in the Martha A. Porter, in IHttTi, I wan on 

 the Georges, because I did not go to the bay until July. I wan on 

 the Georges in I860 and 1867. 



Q. You were not in the bay at all in I860 ? A. No. 



Q. Nor in 1867 ? No. 



Q. You are sure about that ? A. Yes. 



Q. Then there were three years, one after the other, you wern on the 

 Georges in the Martha A. Porter, that is the early part of 18*15 and 1806 

 and 1867 ! A. Yes. 



Q. It is then an entire blunder if you told Mr. Foster you were in the 

 bay in 1867 in the Martha A. Porter ! A. It is a mistake if I told him 

 so. 



Q. In 1869 you were on the Georges. In 1870 you were on the I'hu-- 

 nix in the gulf, and got 120 barrels. Is that right ? A. Yes. 



Q. How did it happen that you said, when Mr. Foster was examining 

 you, that in 1865 you caught 180 barrels, and then you put it at 17o t 

 and now in answer to me you swear positively you caught 120 barrels T 

 A. I got mixed. I knew there were 120 barrels somewhere. 



Q. Nobody mixed you about 1865; it was your own deliberate state- 

 ment. A. Well, I know; I was thinking of the Plm-nix when you were 

 asking me about the Martha A. Porter. 



Q. In 1865 how many barrels did you catch ? A. 1 70 barrels. 



Q. Of that you are quite sure ? A. That I am sure of. 



Q. Why was it you told me the quantity was 120 barrels ? A. I tell 

 you I got mixed up about the Phoenix and the Martha A. Porter because 

 the year afterward I was in the Plnruix. I was in the Martha A. Porter 

 three years and in the Phoenix three years. 1 took the Plm-nix trip for 

 one of the Martha A. Porter trips. 



Q. There is a difference of ideas ? A. I know that. 



Q. Have you any explanation to otter as to your swearing at one time 

 that in 1867 you were in the gulf and now swearing you were not f 

 I said I was not. 



Q. You have no explanation to offer for swearing you were ?- 

 think I was two years at the Georges. 



Q. You have no explanation to offer ? A. No. 



Q. In 1870, when you took 120 barrels or 170 barrels oft' 

 Islands, did you fish anywhere else ; and if so, when' T That was in tl 

 Phoenix. A. Yes; we fished up West Cape, I mean on the v 

 off Bonaventure and Gaspe. 



Q. What did you get there ? A. We got mackerel there 

 them. 



Q. How many did you get ? A. At the time we fished there, 1 

 180 barrels. 



Q. Was that in 1870 ? A. I think it was. 



Q. You got those up at Gaspe and Bonaventure !- 

 venture, Pigeon Hill, and along on that coast. I don't 

 them all off Gaspe". 



Q. Pigeon Hill is on the New Brunswick shore, on the t 

 of Bay Chaleurs ? A. It is on the southern shore of 

 the western side. It is a few miles this side of Point 



Q. That would be on the shore of New Brunswick, in 

 A. I was not in Bay Chaleurs except once in my life. 



