2018 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



siderable difference. I don't kuow what they pay the men. Perhaps 

 some of them pay by the run. 



Q. I don't want " perhaps." A. Then I will say I dou't know. Be- 

 cause I dou't know what they give their men ; I never inquired. 



Q. Is it not extraordinary that you will state positively that the crews 

 of those different vessels one is cheaper than the other when you 

 really dou't know what wages are paid ? A. I don't kuow what wages 

 are paid, but I know if you have men qualified for dories you will pay 

 higher wages than when you can take a number of green hands. I 

 know they take some green hands at a cheaper rate. 



Q. At all events you admit that trawl-fishing is very much more pro- 

 ductive than hook and line fishing ? A. Well, it is productive 



Q. Is it, or is it not, more productive? 



Mr. DANA. Let the witness answer. 



Mr. WHITEWAY. Is it more productive generally than hook and 

 line? A. Well, I should say yes, in some localities. But I have been 

 talking about our vessels going to Newfoundland. I have stated, and so 

 I believe, that it is no advantage to go there with trawls, and I have 

 given my reasons. I have said also that on the coast of Massachusetts, 

 when the trawl was introduced, those who used them made more suc- 

 cessful fishing. 



Q. Is the quantity of fish taken by means of the trawl greater or, in 

 other words, is the trawl more successful in taking fish than the hook and 

 line? A. 1 think it would be, with the same time of fishing. 



Q. It is the same on the Banks, of course, as in Massachusetts Bay? 

 A. Well,I have stated that the schooner Emma Lin wood has been there 

 from the llth to the 27th of August, and we do not know how much 

 longer she is going to be there before getting bait. 



Q. How do you know that ? A. I kuow when he was there, on the 

 llth, because I have got the captain's letter of the llth. I have not 

 got his letter of the 27th, in which he says he has not yet got bait, but 

 I could have got it. 



Q. You have taken a deep interest in this fishery question now before 

 the Commission ? A. Well, 1 do not know. 



Q. You went to all the owners, you say, of the vessels in Province- 

 town who were carrying on the fishery on the Grand Banks 1 A. Yes, 

 sir. 



Q. To ascertain as to the advantage of going to the coast of New- 

 foundlaud to obtain bait? A. Well, I don't know that I can say just that, 

 because 1 knew just as much about that before going to them. I went 

 to the owners to see whether they preferred their going in, and how 

 they felt about all these things. 



Q. When did you go ? A. The date ? 



Q. About what date ? A. All along August. Not every day, but 

 several times. I went in the mouth of August and interviewed the 

 owners of our vessels. 



Q. Preparatory to coming here and giving evidence ? A. Yes. 



Q. You saw them all? A. Every one. 



Q. Have >ou a list of the names of the vessels? A. I have brought 

 a list of the names of the vessels that can be produced. 



Q. Have you a list of the names of the owners ? A. No; I have not 

 a list of the names of the owners. 



Q. Can you give it? A. You take the names of the vessels and I 

 will give you the names of the owners. 



Q. I want a list of the owners of the vessels. Would you favor me 

 \\ith it f A. I haven't it in my possession. 



