2028 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



except the Carrie P. Eich. Do you say that now? A. I did iiot mean to 

 be so understood. I meant Provincetown vessels. 



Q. In answer to Mr. Thomson's question as to whether you know of 

 any American vessel having been wrecked on the shores of Prince Ed- 

 ward Island since 1851, except the Carrie P. Eich, you said no. A. I 

 don't know of any. 



Q. Have you heard of any ? If so, give me the names. A. I don't re- 

 member; I don't know the name of any. 



Q. When you said, in answer to Mr. Foster, that you believed more 

 American vessels were shipwrecked on Prince Edward Island than at 

 Magdalen Islands, and you don't know of any American vessels except 

 one having been wrecked at Prince Edward Island, how do you explain 

 your statement ? A. I suppose he went back indefinitely. In 1851 a 

 large number were lost at Prince Edward Island, and I took that into 

 account. 



Q. You wish to embrace what we call the Yankee storm f A. Yes. 



Q. Are not the Magdalen Islands more daugerous, and don't more 

 shipwrecks take place there than at any other place in the Gulf of St. 

 Lawrence? A. I don't think so for mackerel-fishing vessels. Taking 

 other vessels into account, I don't know. 



Q. You don't know ? A. I don't know ; I have kept no record. 



Q. You don't know from your own knowledge or from hearsay ? A. 

 No; I have only stated, and I state it now, that I fished at Magdalen 

 Islands because I thought it was a safe place, but I took care to keep out 

 in Pleasant Bay. 



Q. In stating that Magdalen Islands are not exceedingly dangerous 

 places, you wish to exclude Pleasant Bay ? A. I consider it a danger- 

 ous place for a small vessel. 



No. 6. 



BARZILLAI KEMP, master-mariner and fisherman, Wellfleet, Mass., 

 called on behalf of the Government of the United States, sworn and 

 examined. 



By Mr. Foster : 



Q. How old are you ? A. Fifty-nine years. 



Q. What is the first year you came to the Gulf of Saint Lawrence as 

 a fisherman ? A. 1845. 



Q. In what schooner ? A. The Gamaliel. 



Q. In what capacity ? A. As one of the sharesmen. 



Q. Do you remember the captain's name? A. James H. Gorham. 



Q. How many mackerel did you catch ? A. We caught 170 barrels. 



Q. Where did you catch them ? A. Those mackerel we caught all on 

 Bank Bradley. 



Q. When did you come again ? A. In 1846. 



Q. As captain ? A. As master of the schooner Enchantress. 



Q. How many did you catch ? A. 300 barrels. 



Q. Where did you take them ? A. At Bradley. 



Q. Any elsewhere ? A. No. We went right to Bradley. 



Q. In 1847 in what vessel were you? A. In schooner Franconia. 



Q. As master ? A. Yes. 



Q. Wliat did you do? A. We made two trips that season. 



Q. Getting how many ? A. G30 barrels. 



Q. Where did you take them ? A. Mostly on Bradley ; some in dif- 

 ferent parts of the bay. We were cruising all around to the nor'ard and 

 Magdalen Islands. 



