2034 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. You obtained the information from 1852 to 1863 from your own 

 books and bills ? A. Yes. 



Q. From 1863 to 1869 the information you obtained from other 

 sources? A. Yes. 



Q. .Did you obtain from your books, or from any other sonrces or doc- 

 uments, the places where you caught the fish ? A. No; I took that as 

 near as I could recollect. I could recollect very near. 



Q. You did not obtain any of that information from any book or 

 memoranda? A. No. 



Q. You got that purely from your memory ; but before giving it you 

 wrote it down in this book, so that it might be correct? A. I followed 

 up from one trip to another. 



Q. You wrote it down in the book ? A. I wrote it down in the book. 



Q. The place where you caught the fish ; for instance, you wrote 

 down, with regard to the schooner Franconia, that she got 630 barrels]; 

 you got that from what source ? A. I got it from my old books. 



Q. What kind of books ? A. My old account-books. 



Q. You kept an account ? A. I kept an account. 



Q. What kind of an account! A. It was like this: u I have caught 

 so many mackerel this trip, and I caught them on Bradley." This was 

 entered in my books. 



Q. Was it a day book or ledger? A. A kind of day-book perhaps 

 ledger. 



Q. You entered the number of barrels you caught in your book, you 

 say, on those occasions, when you went home ? A. When 1 went home 

 1 had the number of barrels entered in my book. 



Q. How did you enter it when you went home ? A. I had a book on 

 board the vessel. 



Q. Ycu entered it on board the vessel ? A. Perhaps I might enter it 

 on board of the vessel, and perhaps when I went home. 



Q. What was your object in entering it? A. I wanted to keep a run 

 of where we got the fish the different years. 



Q. You have told me yon did not get the places where you caught 

 the fish from any book or any other source than your memory. I am 

 not asking you with regard to where you caught the fish, but in regard 

 to the number of barrels you caught. A.. The number of barrels I 

 caught I took from my books of account. 



Q. You have down that the schooner Franconia caught 630 barrels of 

 mackerel in 1847 ; where did you get that number, 630 ? A. I got that 

 from my old account-books, and from my bills where I packed. 



Q. Where did you get that number, 630 ? A. I took it, as I have 

 stated, from my old account-books which I had filed away in such a year. 



Q. The numbers were taken not from any bills, but from old books f 

 A. Some from books and some from bills. 



Q. Then you cannot recollect whether they were taken from books or 

 bills ? A. I don't recollect exactly that one particular. 



Q. With regard to the places where the greatest number of fish were 

 caught, how could you tell that from bills ; do you mean bills you made 

 out where you sold them? A. Where I landed them. 



Q. What do you mean by bills? A. When we have a bill made out 

 I consider it a bill. 



Q. A bill of items ? A. Yes. 



Q. Then you got the number of barrels from the bills of parcels ? 

 A. I don't think 1 recollect exactly. 



Q. I am not asking you to recollect any particular item, but to explain 

 the matter to the Commission, for you have only mentioned two sources 



