2036 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Did you on every trip go to one shore or the other, to Gaspe and 

 across to the other side ? A. Most generally. I was at Bank Orphan 

 the last time I went to the bay. 



Q. I ask you if you on every occasion you went northward went to 

 either one shore or other, or both shores of the St. Lawrence to fish? 

 A. As a general rule, I tried after I got on the Banks. 



Q. I am speaking about Gaspe". Take Gaspe; did you usually go in 

 those years to either one shore or the other to fish I A. Yes ; I gen- 

 erally went. 



Q. Did you ever hear of any mackerel being caught on the shores of 

 the St. Lawrence outside of three miles ? A. Yes. 



Q. We will take the north side first. A. Yes ; outside of three miles. 



Q. How far have you been up the shores of the St. Lawrence ? A. I 

 was never but a few miles past Gaspe, between Gaspe and Madeleine 

 Eiver half way from Gaspe to Madeleine River. 



Q. On the other side of the river, how far have you been up above 

 Gaspe ? A. I have been perhaps 10 or 15 miles above Gasp6. I have 

 only been on the port hand going up. 



Q. I ask you about both shores of the St. Lawrence ? A. I only went 

 on one, the port hand. 



Q. Did I not ask you, and did you not tell me that you generally 

 fished on both shores of the St. Lawrence Eiver, above Gaspe" ? A. 

 X o ; because I never went there. 



Q. You never fished on the north side of the St. Lawrence ? A. No. 



Q. On any occasion ? A. No. 



Q. You never tried to fish there ! A. No. I have been ten miles 

 above Gaspe. 



Q. Did you ever fish on the north shore of the gulf anywhere ? A. 

 I fished some about Bonaveuture, off Bonaventure Island. 



Q. You never fished on the north shore of the gulf at any place what- 

 ever? A. No. 



Q. You never tried to fish there ? A. I never was there not on the 

 north shore. 



Q. You never fished anywhere in the river St. Lawrence ? A. I don't 

 know whether you call it the river St. Lawrence at Gaspe". I say I have 

 been up about ten miles above Gaspe". 



Q. Not farther than that ? A. No. 



Q. You don't call that the river St. Lawrence ? A. I suppose not. 



Q. You never heard that called the river St. Lawrence ? A. I don't 

 know how far down it comes. 



Q. Did you ever hear it called the river St. Lawrence ? A. What 

 part? 



Q. At the place you have mentioned ? A. No ; I don't know that I 

 ever did. 



Q. You stated that when you spoke of the Magdalen Islands you 

 meant all round there ? A. When we fish all round about those islands 

 we call it fishing at the Magdalens. If I caught a trip nor'ard of the 

 Magdalens 10, 15, or 20 miles, and if I spoke a vessel, and they wanted 

 to know where I caught the fish, I would say at the Magdalens, nor'ard 

 of the Magdalens. 



Q. When I first asked you the question if you had ever fished on 

 other shores at the mouth of the Saint Lawrence, except Gaspe", I un- 

 derstood you to answer me that you generally went there and fished ? 

 A. I think not. 



Q. That you not only fished at the Magdalens, but generally fished on 



