2064 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Then she didn't get her fall fare with that bait ? A. Xo. She went 

 in and got salt squids. 



Q. What quantity had she taken with that bait up to the month of 

 August? A. Four hundred quintals. 



Q. Why didn't she continue fishing dependent upon that bait ? A. 

 lie thought he could do better going for fresh bait. 



Q. But that was fresh bait, was it not ? A. Yes. 



Q. Didn't he take any bait with him from the Gut of Causo? A. I 

 think not. 



Q. Do you untertake to say he did not! A. I know he did not. I 

 am certain. 



Q. You mean to say that a vessel proceeded from the Gut of Can so 

 out to the Grand Bank without any bait, depending upon small codfish 

 and halibut? A. She might have a barrel or two when she started. 



Q. Is not that an isolated case ? Do you mean to say it is a common 

 thing for them to go out depending upon bait out upon the Banks, or 

 that it was at that time? A. How do I understand you ? 



Q. Is that correct, what you stated, that they always went out de- 

 pending upon salt bait ? You stated that those that went out with salt 

 bait always got their trips. We understand you now to say that some 

 of them went out supplied with salt bait 50 barrels per vessel, and that 

 some went depending upon the small codfish and halibuton the Banks? 

 A. Precisely. 



Q. What proportion of these vessels were supplied with salt bait, and 

 what proportion were depending upon the small codfish and halibut ? 

 A. I could not say. 



Q. Half of them ? A. I do not know how many. 



Q. Then, if a witness stated here that all the vessels that went into 

 the Banks were supplied with salt bait up to 1873, he would not be 

 stating what you believe to be correct? A. I do not know anything 

 further than I said before. I know this vessel went in 1874. 



Q. Now, are you aware that a large number of vessels during the 

 last three or four years have gone on to the coast and obtained bait for 

 the Grand Banks ? A. Yes. 



Q. I believe the numbers have increased every year ; is not that the 

 case ? A. I think it is. 



Q. Well, do you think it would be very injurious in fact for them, to 

 enter? A. That is my opinion. 



Q. Well, now, has it never struck you as very singular that such a 

 number of vessels should go in, and that every year the number should 

 increase, if it were so very injurious to those vessels ? A. Well, if I had 

 vessels going to the Banks I should not allow them to go in for bait. 



Q. Does it not strike you as being very singular that those vessels 

 increase in numbers every year if the effect is so injurious and prejudi- 

 cial * A. I don't know how to answer that question. 



Q. You cannot answer that question ; are you the agent of any ves- 

 sel there in Provincetown ? A. Yes. 



Q. Besides your own, I mean ? A. "No. 



Q. You know Captain Atwood who was here yesterday ? A. Yes. 



Q. He is one who is a high authority in Provincetowu on the subject 

 of the fisheries, is he not ? A. Some. 



Q. Is not he a man whose opinions relative to the subject of the fish- 

 eries are regarded as important? Is he not in fact regarded as an 

 oracle? A. He may be scientifically, but not practically, more than the 

 rest. 



