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nothing to do with the Speedwell. She was only spoken of as one of 

 those that went in. 



Q. She didn't belong to you ? A. No. 



Q. Name the five then ? A. The Arthur Clifford, S. E. Davis, the 

 Teresa D. Baker, the Chanticleer, and the Gertrude. 



Q. Can you give me an account of what they did severally ? A. I 

 havn't the figures. 



Q. How many of them made full fares ? A. Teresa D. Baker con- 

 sumed five hogsheads of salt. That was very nearly her full fare. 



Q. Was she upon the coast to get bait f A. I don't think she went in. 



Q. Do you know whether she did or not ? A. I don't know. I say I 

 think she did not. 



Q. Never mind what you think. You say you don't know. A. Well, 

 if 1 told you I did not know, I would not be telling you all I know. 



Q. Do you say more ? A. I say I think not. 



Q. What about the other four ! A. The Arthur Clifford was in, and 

 the S. E. Davis. 



Q. What captain was it that told you it took him four days to go in 

 and get bait, and come out again ? A. Captain McDonald, in the Arthur 

 Clifford. 



Q. Is that the only captain from whom you have heard how long it 

 takes to go in for bait "? A. No, I have heard others. 



Q. Of your own captains ? A. 1 had one that was three weeks, some 

 years ago, in at St. Peter's. 



Q. How many years ago was that ? A. Five years, I guess. 



Q. Are you aware that St. Peter's is not part of Newfoundland, and 

 is not under the jurisdiction of Newfoundland or of the British Gov- 

 ernment? A. Yes; I knew it was French. 



Q. Have other of your captains told you that it took them four days 

 to go into the Newfoundland coast to get bait and come out ? A. Not 

 that exact time. 



Q. Then it is only from him you have the information as to the time 

 it takes. Is that the case ; is Captain McDonald the only man ? A. 

 O, no ; I have talked with other captains that don't belong to rny ves- 

 sels about the matter, and that was the reason why I didn't want my 

 vessels to go in, because they took so much time. 



Q. What others ? A. I have talked with some that belonged to my 

 cousin's vessel, the Ella May, and several others. 



Q. Give the captains' names. A. Captain Mayhew. 



Q. Was that the only one ? A. No ; I suppose not. I have talked 

 with the whole of them. 



Q. How long did Mayhew say it took ? A. He said it took him a 

 week to make the trip into Newfoundland and back. 



Q. Is there any other ? A. Yes ; I have talked with the whole of 

 them. If I was to tell you the names of all it would take me the rest 

 of the day. 



Q. We will require to know the names of the others ? A. There was 

 no particular time stated by many of them, but they found a good deal 

 of fault with the going in tor bait. 



Q. Is there any other captain who told you the time it would take I 

 A. Yes ; I can name a dozen. 



Q. Name them. 



Mr. DANA. You do not want these names. 



Mr. WHITEWAY (to the witness). You say you can name them. Do 

 you refuse to do so ? If you do there is an end of it. Do you refuse to 

 do so? A. No; I do not refuse. 



