2086 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. There was a good deal of excitement in your town about it at that 

 time, was there uot ? A. Excitement ? Well, we expressed our views. 

 I do not know that there was any undue excitement. 



Q. If I atn correctly informed, you went up to oppose a delegation, 

 perhaps part of it from your own place a delegation in favor of the 

 treaty in consequence of the advantage to the mackerel fishery? A. 

 I went up as I said. I was sent to "Washington as one of the delegates 

 to oppose the ratification of the treaty, or that portion of it which re- 

 lated to this fishing question. 



Q. I want to see whether I am correctly informed. Would you have 

 gone up at all if it had not been there was a delegation in favor of it? 

 A. In favor of what ! 



Q. Of the treaty ? A. I was not aware that there was a delegation 

 in favor of it. 



Q. Did you never hear that? A. No. 



Q. This last treaty ? A. No ; I was not aware of it from our town. 



Q. From Gloucester ? A. There was a delegation from Gloucester 

 that was opposed to it, as we were. I was not aware there was any in 

 favor of it. 



Q. You do not know anything about it ? A. No. 



Q. Were not those interested in the mackerel fishery in favor of it ? 

 A. Certainly, 1 saw none. 



Q. But generally those that were altogether interested in the mackerel 

 fishery ? A. I saw no one there that was in favor of that treaty. 



Q. I am asking you generally whether the people interested in the 

 mackerel-fishing were not in favor of it. A. I think I can safely say 

 they were not, so far as my information extends. 



Q. Whom did you communicate with from any other place than 

 Piovincetown ? A. I saw a delegation from Gloucester. 



Q. Mackerel-fishers? A. Yes. 



Q. They combined with you then ? A. They did. 



Q. What was their object? 



Mr. DANA. He has not quite answered your question. 



WITNESS. There were delegations from the town of Plymouth and 

 Wellfleet. I think, perhaps, there were others, although I cannot call 

 them to mind just now. 



Q. Were they mackerel fishers ? A. The Wellfleet delegation repre- 

 sented mackerel-fishermen entirely. The Plymouth delegation repre- 

 sented, perhaps, cod fishers. I think they are mostly engaged in cod- 

 fishing. Our town was engaged in both branches, and our delegation 

 represented both interests. 



Q. I suppose the mackerel-fishers have the same object, to keep up 

 tie price of fish ? A. I presume they have. 



Q. Then, of course, you think your views are correct. You think 

 now, I presume, that your opinion was correct ? A. Yes. 



Q. And you still continue to think that is correct, and that the effect 

 of the provisions of the treaty is to bring down the price of fish ? A. 

 Yes; I think that is the tendency. I am not aware whether it has 

 brought the prices down. 



Q. I mean to say you have not changed your opinion ? A. Xo. 



Q. Of course there might be other causes operating, but that is the 

 general tendency of the treaty ? A. Yes. 



Q. To make the fish cheaper for the consumer? A. We have so 

 regarded it. Well, perhaps it would have that tendency, We have 

 thought that it would. 



Q. That is precisely what your opinion was? A. Yes. 



