2102 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



Q. Is a southeast wind an offshore wind? A. No; it then blows 

 straight up the shoi^. 



Q. A southeast wind at Prince Edward Island is not an off-shore 

 wind ? A. No ; it blows up the bight of the island. 

 Q. Is not that blowing off the island shore? A. No. 

 Q. But when you had reference to a northeast wind, to what part did 

 you allude? A. I speak of where I was. 1 do not know about East 

 Point; we were talking about the bight of the island. 



Q. You say that a southeast and an easterly wind are dangerous 

 there? A. I say that it is dangerous there in a northeast and southeast 

 gale ; and 1 will leave that for corroboration to any practical seaman 

 either of the United States or Canada, if he speaks the truth. 



Q. Did you ever lose a vessel there ? A. No ; not back of Prince 

 Edward Island. 



Q. Have you yourself seen any vessels wrecked there? A. No. 

 Q. Have you seen any American fishing- vessels wrecked there since 

 1851? A. In Malpeque, yes; but never back of the island. I was 

 never near enough to the beach in a gale of wind to see a vessel wrecked 

 there. 



Q. Did you ever see a vessel wrecked there? A. I have seen the 

 remains of any amount of wrecks there. 



Q. Since 1851, have you seen one vessel wrecked there? A. I saw 

 one wrecked on New London Head. 



Q. When ? A. I could not say exactly, but I think it was 1867. I 

 was in the Finback at the time. This vessel was going in when she 

 struck the bar and went ashore. 

 Q. Was she an American vessel ? A. Yes. 



Q. Was she lost? A. She was got off after a good deal of expense 

 had been incurred. Her name I think was the Julia Franklin. She 

 touched on the bar and drifted ashore. 



Q. When you were fishing along the bight of the island did you ever 

 run in, throw out bait, and drift off? A. I have tried in there. 



Q. How would you get in if the wind blew off shore ? A. If I thought 

 that there was a prospect of catching fish inshore I would stand in as 

 near as possible. 



Q. How near ? A. That would depend on the vessel I was in. If 

 she was small, I would drift in to within perhaps one mile of the shore, 

 if I was fishing there, heave to, and drift off. 



Q. And commence throwing out bait? A. Yes; if I raised the fish I 

 would certainly catch them if I had a license. 

 Q. But some years you did not require a license? A. Yes. 

 Q. During the Eeciprocity Treaty, when you had full right to go in- 

 shore, what was your practice with reference to fishing off the north 

 shore of Prince Edward Island ? A. I have given the history of my 

 fishing there during two years. I never made a business of fishing in- 

 shore save in 1852, when I was with Curtis. We then caught, I think, 

 over 100 barrels out of 320 within the three-mile limit. We would stand 

 in to perhaps one mile of the land, heave to, and drift off; and if we 

 raised mackerel, we would catch all we could. 



Q. When you say that you caught one-half within the limits, you 

 mean that you caught the other half when you had drifted beyond the 

 limits? A. I mean that this was all we got within the limits; the rest 

 we caught on what we call Malpeque, or the New London Head ground. 

 We would fish, say, 12 miles off New London and Kildare, in the lay of 

 the land, and the other halt we took on this ground. W T e fished there 

 considerably that year. 



