2104 AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 



was in the Josephine at the time. I know we went through the Gut 

 of Canso that fall after the 13th of October. 



Q. And you took all with the exception of 50 barrels from four to 

 five or six miles off shore ? A. Yes. 



Q. How close inshore were you when you caught the 50 barrels ? 

 A. Perhaps within two miles of it; we were drifting down by the 

 island at the time. 



Q. In 1851 you were in the George Chaddock in the bight of the 

 island, and in 1853 on the American coast ! A. In 1853 I was in the 

 George Chaddock on our shore. 



Q. Have you had anything to assist you in making your estimates 

 save your memory? A. No; I remember the facts concerning 1851 

 very distinctly, owing to the occurrence of the great gale that year, and 

 1852 was a peculiar year; and 1 remember the facts, distinctly. I 

 never fished right along the island. 



Q. That was the only time when you fished at the island ? A. To 

 any extent yes. 



Q. In 1851 you fished off Cape Breton ? A. Yes. 



Q. And in 1852 at the island ? A. Yes. These were the only two 

 seasons when I made a business of fishing in these particular localities. 



Q. Have you had any other means of recollecting or refreshing your 

 memory ? A. No ; save that I have consulted some of the men with 

 whom I fished. We talked matters over, and I have made my esti- 

 mates as near as I could. I have stated the facts on oath, to the best 

 of my recollection. 



Q. Had you any Nova Scotians or Prince Edward Islanders with 

 you ? A. Yes. The fall that we fished near Mar^aree we shipped a 

 number of Cape Breton fellows at the Gut. 



Q. Can you give any of their names ? A. No. 



Q. In 1853 you fished on.the American coast ? A. Yes. 



Q. At what distance from the shore there do you generally catch your 

 fish ? A. From Cape Henry up to Long Island and down to Martha's 

 Vineyard and Cape Cod, and along the shore to the Bay of Fundy. We 

 are liable to fish anywhere, from 2 dr 3 miles off shore to 30 miles off, 

 save when the mackerel come into the rivers and harbors. I have some- 

 times made as good trips in the harbors on the eastern shore as I ever 

 made in my life. 



Q. Would I be correct in saying that the American fishing-fleet, as a 

 rule, fish from 2 or 3 to 30 miles off the American coast ? A. Yes ; I do 

 not know but what you would. 



Q. And the bulk of the fish is taken within those limits? A. Yes; t 

 think so. 



Q. Can you recollect what you did in 1857 suppose that you did not 

 look at your book, and trusted to your memory ! A. I do not know 

 that I could. 



Q. Now, don't look at your book, and tell me what vessel you were in 

 during 1857 ? A. I do not know that I could tell you. I do not believe 

 that you could tell me what case you had in 1857, who was the plaintiff, 

 and who the defendant, and how much you got for it. 



Q. Certainly not ; but bring it down ten years later 1867 and I 

 couki do so. A. So can I. Then I was in the schooner Finback, and 

 I bought a license that year. 



Q. As a matter of fact, can you recollect the vessel in which you were 

 in 18571 A. I have looked at the book, and I see that she 'was the 

 J. S. Eagau. I now remember the circumstances a little. 



