AWARD OP THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2107 



Q. You think that the fishing-vessels leave Prince Edward UUnd 

 before they leave the Magdalen Islands ? A. Yea. 



Q. Give me the dates. A. I, never saw flailing done in the Ui K bt of 

 Prince Edward Island after the 1st of October. 



Q. And you never fished but once in the bight of the inland T A. I 

 beg your pardon j 1 said I never fished there but once within three iniU-s 

 of the laud. 



Q. I understood you differently; in 1851 you were in the Josephine? 

 A. And in 1852 I was in the Josephine. 



Q. The only times you mention of being at the island at all WTP dur- 

 ing the years 1851 and 1852, as I have itf A. You were asking about 

 fishing within the three-mile limit; and those were the only yearn when 

 I ever made a business of doing so. 



Q. And you think that vessels fish later around the Magdalen I*land* 

 than off Prince Edward Island ? A. Yes; as far as my experience go>*. 



Q. Whatever that is worth ? A. Yes. 



Q. Do you know Captain Chivari f A. No. 



Q. You seem to have fished every year at the Magdalen Islands ! A. 

 I did so almost every year, and about every trip. 



Q. I understand that your evidence amounts to this: that the bulk of 

 your fish was caught at Bank Bradley, around the Magdalen Island*, 

 and in the bight of the island ; that a very small pro|H>rtion waa taken 

 within the three-mile limit; that you never fished on the west coast, or 

 in the Bay of Chaleurs, or at Seven Islands ; and that you never but 

 once were fishing off the Cape Breton coast in 18.32 and that wa* 

 off Margaree ; and that you then caught about 50 barrels within the 

 three-mile limit, and the balance from four to five or six miles off shore ?- 

 A. I believe that is correct. 



Q. And you have no experience of fishing grounds in the gulf save 

 ihose at the Magdalen Islands and off the bight of Prince Edward 

 Island? A. .1 have also fished on Banks Bradley and Orphan, and off 

 North Cape, and so across, wide off over towards Points Miscou and 

 Escuminac. We caught some fish in those places. 



Q. As far as the fishing-fleets are concerned, these are accustomed to 

 frequent and fish in the Bay of Chaleurs, off the Caj>e Breton coast, at 

 Margaree and Cheticamp, off Cascumpeque, and around to East Point, 

 and to drift off the island shore ; but you had nothing to do with that !- 

 A. I never knew that any vessels made that a custom, as a general 

 thing. Some few scattered vessels fished there. 



Q. And if large fleets do so, you were not among them !- 

 what is more, if they did it I would have been able to have swn them, 

 though they were 10 or 15 miles from me. 



Q. But if a number of men came and stated that they saw '2 

 vessels fishing in these places, would you dispute the accuracy of 

 & statement ? A. If there were 200 or 300 vessels at Hank 1 

 would have been apt to have known of it. 



Q. But 200 or 300 vessels might be there one day and 

 be in the Bay of Chaleurs ? A. Yes ; if they had a good bree* 



Q. Is it not the practice of many American vessels 

 schools of fish from one place to another T A. That would I 

 if the fish so moved ; but, as a general thing, the iish abmi 

 themselves on some ground, and there you will general!} 

 There are different schools ; and one school, for instance, w 

 self at the Magdalen Islands, where you will generally fl 

 will not catch them every day ; but as a general thing ym 

 them j and other schools will locate themselves at 



