AWARD OF THE FISHERY COMMISSION. 2109 



Margaree and Cheticaiup, on the Cape Breton coast, how in the world 

 can you tell how many were there f A. I have not tohl. 



Q. You deny that 600 or 700* American vessel* couie to the bay T A. 

 I will tell you my reasons for doing so. If we have on our whore only 

 about 1,000 vessels, and if GOO or 700 of them are fishing then*, 1 know 

 that they are not in the bay, and that there are only about 4iM) left. 



Q. This is, of course, a matter of opinion ! A. Ther in no opinion 

 about it. These are the statistics, and figures won't lie. 



.Q. You would not yield to 10 or 20 or 40 men who swore to the con- 

 trary ? A. No. 



Q. Will you swear that there never wore 700 American venwU in the 

 bay ? A. Yes ; I will take oath that there were never WHJ which j-..-. -I 

 the Gut of Canso into the bay. 



Q. Were there 500 ? A. There might have been, but I do not think it. 

 As to the outside limit I would swear to, I would not go In-low tiuo, but 

 still I say, I will take oath to GOO, though I won't dare go any farther. 



Q. When a man takes an oath it is a serious thing. A. I know what 

 an oath is. 



Q. One, then, requires pretty good data to go on ? A. I know that. 



Q. Do you know James Bradley, who was called on behalf of the 

 American Government? A. Yes; I am well acquainted with him. 



Q. He is from Newburyport ? A. 1 was with him in the fruit buai- 

 ness. 



Q. Is he a truthful man ! A. I consider him to be so. 



Q. When in the same position in which you now are under outh h 

 deposed : 



Q. In those days what was the average number of the fleet that did very much a* jw 

 did ? A. I don't know that I could make a very good average. 



Q. Give an approximate amount, to the best of vour judgment. A. 

 f tainly. I have been in the bar with 900 sail of Auu-rieau vesa-la, bi 

 diminished along the last years I went there. 



A. He was not read up in statistics. I can prove that that i* not *. 



Q. Are you a statistician ? A. I have statistics enough to how, i 

 the first place, that we have only 1,300 registered fishing retell 

 United States, and taking out 300 a low estimate as rod 1 

 leaves 1,000 other vessels, as nigh as 1 can judge. Well 

 are 200 vessels under American register on our shore, which a 

 to go into the bay. 



.Q. Why ? A. Because they are not big enough or go< 

 a man is going from the United States down to the Bay of < 

 wants a good vessel : and then there are I'OO more winch have i 

 sition or dare not go down, and that leaves Goo : and HO pu 

 bay every vessel which is capable of going there ati 

 600 for such purpose. 



Q. You talk about statistics on which you base vour eviden- 

 are they? A. I have not got them with me save in my u 



Q Where did you get them !_A. From hearing the .ton. 

 of I say there are about the numbers I mentioned. 

 ing with the most minute exactness. I say that we have 

 registered vessels, and I suppose that there are alx 



Q. You say that the reason why your evidence , 

 over Mr. Bradley's is that he is a man who is no i 

 tistics ?-A. I did not say preferred. 1 told you tl 



read the evidence in which he stated that he had been in 



